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  • Dean_Razorback
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    #11
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    Lemieux is terrible. But, at least he seems to have a boxer's mindset. I don't know WTF is going on with Stephens. Curtis clearly has the greater talent between the two but I don't trust him to hold up throughout the fight. I predict he loses by decision after shutting down in the last half of the fight, then acts shocked when the decision is announced.
    this fight won't go the distance. but i agree. lemieux is just power. i think i didn't see him throw a single jab vs n'dam

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    • Redd Foxx
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      #12
      Originally posted by deanrw
      I think it ends early. Both are too eager to land home runs. I think Stevens catches Lemieux in an exchange. I give it 65% Stevens winning, 35 Percent Lemieux
      Originally posted by Dean_Razorback
      this fight won't go the distance. but i agree. lemieux is just power. i think i didn't see him throw a single jab vs n'dam
      I agree that they're both powerful and that, if they decide to throw bombs, it will end early (the earlier it ends, the most likely it will be Stephens winning, IMO). Just going by their records, it seems destined to end in a TKO. However, I just have a su****ion that these guys have been around long enough that they're not looking to take chances anymore, and that they both know the other can hurt them.

      Admittedly, I tend to take more unrealistic pics so I can sound clever if they come true.

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      • wrecksracer
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        #13
        [QUOTE=hyeduk;17491290]That's a ****** comment. Boxers back in 50, 60 or 70 were inferior due to nutrition, technology advances, equipment and etc.. and overall, people progress with time not regress.


        Boxers back in 50, 60 and 70s boxed more often and against a variety of styles. Fighters these days only fight twice a year against opponents they know that they can beat. They may be healthier, but they sure aren't better. Boxing is not like track and field.

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        • Slick.Rick
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          #14
          So Sugar Ray Robinson and Leonard were inferior to both of these guys? I don't think so. Jackson is right, Lemieux is nothing special. And if you tossed him in with the likes of Hagler, Leonard & Hearns you would see how ordinary he really is.

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            #15
            Originally posted by slimPickings
            David Lemieux is as overrated as they come!!
            nobody says he is good everyone says he sucks that's not how over rated works. over rated is when everyone claims someone is good when they arent good. everyone claims lemieux isnt that good when he isnt that good.

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            • Redd Foxx
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              #16
              Originally posted by hyeduk
              That's a ****** comment. Boxers back in 50, 60 or 70 were inferior due to nutrition, technology advances, equipment and etc.. and overall, people progress with time not regress.

              he described David as he is somewhat a gatekeeper. The guy has skills and power
              The general quality of food is lower now due to commercial farming practices. Schwarzenegger wrote some good things about this subject.

              As far as training goes, you only need to watch older fights vs new to see that stamina has somehow gotten worse on average.

              I'm not an old guy, I'm just not one of these people that think humans are somehow superior just because we've gathered a greater collective knowledge. If anything, look at the increasingly sedentary lifestyle and less strenuous physical labor required today as a clue that people will likely be devolving, physically, compared to generations of the past.
              Last edited by Redd Foxx; 03-10-2017, 11:24 PM.

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              • PunchyPotorff
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                #17
                Originally posted by hyeduk
                That's a ****** comment. Boxers back in 50, 60 or 70 were inferior due to nutrition, technology advances, equipment and etc.. and overall, people progress with time not regress.

                he described David as he is somewhat a gatekeeper. The guy has skills and power
                Have you even watched any boxing from back then? There were a bunch of grizzly mean fighters from the 50s and 60s, even some in the 70s. With way less divisions, and a lot more active... many times they fought once a month. And fighters weren't coddled like many are today.

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