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  • Verus
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    #31
    Originally posted by TheCell8
    He's also speaking truth.

    When those financial reports were released during the Haymon trial, we found out quickly that Canelo's success isn't only significant for Golden Boy it's vital for their survival as a company. Canelo accounted for 107% of Golden Boy income in 2016. Without him they are literally nothing.

    The likelihood of Canelo losing fans if he were to lose to GGG is quite low. But there's a chance he takes a lot of damage in that fight and isn't the same fighter afterwards.

    So naturally, Oscar is a bit reluctant to match him tough. That's why we're getting these low risk fights with Chavez Jr.

    Which Arum pretty much alluded to.
    107%? I can understand that Canelo brings in the largest portion of GB revenues, but how can he bring in more than the total amount? Maybe it means 107% of rest of GB revenues. If that is the case, Canelo generates more than 50% of total revenues.

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    • Verus
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      #32
      I think promoters and some boxers TV executives are underestimating the public. People are not hung up on boxers being undefeated as much as these guys are. If a fighter is good and exciting, he will continue to be a draw even after losing. Need I mention Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Gatti, Pacquiao, Duran and so on. The list is long. We need to see good competitive fights, not undefeated boxers fighting stiffs to maintain an unblemished record. One reason I like Thurman is because he doesn't care about keeping his 0. He wants to fight the best.

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      • Mikenite
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        #33
        Really??

        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
        Arum is saying this because that';s what happened with Pacquiao. Arum/Pacquiao didn't want to risk it against Mayweather.
        It's well known that Mayweather Ducked Manny for many years unfair contracts, Anti Doping standards that weren't the norm in boxing should I keep going on the way Mayweather ducked Manny?? Mayweather waited until he saw how Manny wasn't so dominating and also waited until Manny got knocked out before he took the fight. LET'S go on to Maidana who Mayweather made wear heavier ounce gloves because he was scared to fight him with punchers gloves.

        Now for anyone that is talking about Canelo or Oscar they are doing exactly what mayweather has done for years. It's sad that now in boxing your Stardom has the upper hand in who you fight and who you can duck and nobody will care that you sent him a 60/40 split for a fight. (Cough cough Mayweather.)

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        • j0zef
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          #34
          We'll see. Canelo may tell Oscar to F off and make the fight. Make no mistake about it - Canelo's rep has taken some huge hits recently and he needs a fight to get back on track.

          If he never fights Golovkin it's gonna be an asterisk on his resume forever.

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          • Shadoww702
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            #35
            Originally posted by MDPopescu
            ... forget Golovkin...

            ... Canelo should fight the likes of Lemieux, Saunders, Eubank Jr., Charlos etc...
            I agree. Probably could fight 2-3 if not ALL combined for $15,000,000.

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            • Shadoww702
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              #36
              Originally posted by Mikenite
              It's well known that Mayweather Ducked Manny for many years unfair contracts, Anti Doping standards that weren't the norm in boxing should I keep going on the way Mayweather ducked Manny?? Mayweather waited until he saw how Manny wasn't so dominating and also waited until Manny got knocked out before he took the fight. LET'S go on to Maidana who Mayweather made wear heavier ounce gloves because he was scared to fight him with punchers gloves.

              Now for anyone that is talking about Canelo or Oscar they are doing exactly what mayweather has done for years. It's sad that now in boxing your Stardom has the upper hand in who you fight and who you can duck and nobody will care that you sent him a 60/40 split for a fight. (Cough cough Mayweather.)
              Your against better drug testing??? You have to be a PEDvetkin fan...

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              • Mike_R
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                #37
                I don't like Bob Arum.

                I'm starting to dislike Oscar to almost the same degree though, contingent on this fight happening.

                If Canelo ever fights and beats GGG, he goes from cash cow to cash brontosaurus. Have to throw it down and fight though.

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                • Shadoww702
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Deletrious
                  Canelo is like Chavez, relying on putting huge weight back on after weigh in. I wouldn't give him better than 50/50 against any of the better middleweights.
                  I hope you don't gamble but If you do and he fights a good MW... I'll be ther to remind you of what you said. You are a fool if you think Canelo wouldn't be in the top 3 at MW.

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                  • Lester Tutor
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mikenite
                    It's well known that Mayweather Ducked Manny for many years unfair contracts, Anti Doping standards that weren't the norm in boxing should I keep going on the way Mayweather ducked Manny?? Mayweather waited until he saw how Manny wasn't so dominating and also waited until Manny got knocked out before he took the fight. LET'S go on to Maidana who Mayweather made wear heavier ounce gloves because he was scared to fight him with punchers gloves.

                    Now for anyone that is talking about Canelo or Oscar they are doing exactly what mayweather has done for years. It's sad that now in boxing your Stardom has the upper hand in who you fight and who you can duck and nobody will care that you sent him a 60/40 split for a fight. (Cough cough Mayweather.)
                    wait...how do you defend Roach admitting that it was their fault for delaying the bout because of blood testing?

                    what do GGG and Alvarez doing testing correlate with May vs Pac?
                    Last edited by Lester Tutor; 03-08-2017, 11:36 AM.

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                    • Shadoww702
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Mike_R
                      I don't like Bob Arum.

                      I'm starting to dislike Oscar to almost the same degree though, contingent on this fight happening.

                      If Canelo ever fights and beats GGG, he goes from cash cow to cash brontosaurus. Have to throw it down and fight though.
                      But then what??? Who does he fight then?? You will only say now he's ducking Gilberto or DeGale. The MW is dog sht right now. Personally he would be better of staying at 154 where you have Andrade, Charlo, and Spence, Thurman both easily make 154.

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