Why no KOs?

[-PBP-]

Well if you want Thurman to fight Wilder level of opposition he will get more KOs. If you want to see the best fight the best then you need to learn to appreciate their entire skill package offensively and defensively

[Combat Talk Radio]

Why do you seem butthurt? I appreciate boxing skills and all that but it would be nice to see big time fights end in kos every once in a while.

You just did. It doesn't get much bigger than Canelo/Khan and Golovkin/Brook. You're just not happy because they were mismatches. But they were knockouts.

You're saying it was steroids when Ray Leonard stopped guys or Hearn stopped guys.

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. They'll both tell you they were juicing, because it was legal back then.

You saying Degale-Jack wasn't the two to SMWs?

You saying Thurman and Garcia weren't the two top welters?

Klitschko/Povetkin. Two top heavys, no knockout.
Klitschko/Fury. Two top heavys, no knockout.
Wilder/Stiverne. At the time, two top heavys, no knockout.

That's my problem with your argument. It doesn't make sense. Just because guys are "top" does not assure you a knockout and you should not expect such.

What you should be doing is be happy with the knockouts you do get, and follow these up and coming fighters who are giving you the knockouts you want rather than pining over the "top" fighters who don't. You don't get it. Your argument is exactly why boxing is struggling - failing to support up and coming knockout artists and complaining about guys at the top of the game.

The sweet science isn't going away. If you don't like it don't watch those fighters. It's their job to win however they need to, period.

[Adonis Creed]

Well if you want Thurman to fight Wilder level of opposition he will get more KOs. If you want to see the best fight the best then you need to learn to appreciate their entire skill package offensively and defensively

Stfu who says i don't appreciate the skill all I'm saying is a fighter shouldn't only be able to ko bums especially if there one of the best fighters in the world. All I'm saying is these guys are hyped as big punchers but we only see then ko "tomato cans".

You just did. It doesn't get much bigger than Canelo/Khan and Golovkin/Brook. You're just not happy because they were mismatches. But they were knockouts.



Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. They'll both tell you they were juicing, because it was legal back then.



You saying Thurman and Garcia weren't the two top welters?

Klitschko/Povetkin. Two top heavys, no knockout.
Klitschko/Fury. Two top heavys, no knockout.
Wilder/Stiverne. At the time, two top heavys, no knockout.

That's my problem with your argument. It doesn't make sense. Just because guys are "top" does not assure you a knockout and you should not expect such.

What you should be doing is be happy with the knockouts you do get, and follow these up and coming fighters who are giving you the knockouts you want rather than pining over the "top" fighters who don't. You don't get it. Your argument is exactly why boxing is struggling - failing to support up and coming knockout artists and complaining about guys at the top of the game.

The sweet science isn't going away. If you don't like it don't watch those fighters. It's their job to win however they need to, period.

That exactly what i mean about all those fights you named,we always get these fights with alot of hype that are somewhat underwhelming not necessarily last night.

It's nothing special to ko an overmatched fighter like Canelo or ggg did or like most top prospects do. I know you can't always expect a knockout at the top level but if these guys are as good as they're hyped they should be able to ko elite fighters.

That's honestly why boxings losing popularity. We're all boxing fans here but 3.5/4 out of people watching don't give a **** about someone's footwork or using there reach or defense. If Leonard can ko hearns or holyfield can stop Tyson is it too much to ask in this day and age for one elite fighter to stop another?

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Every couple months a big fight comes like the one last night and it gets hype about one guy knocking out the other. But very very rarely does it happen.

This is why fighters like Ggg, Spence, Joshua,and Wilder are important.

What HUGE fights from the past couple years have actually ended in kos?

I'm talking about real top fights like Degale-Jack or Crawford -Postol none of those fights are really big fights except for ggg-brook or khan-canelo which were mismatches.


Also lol if that's the best list you could give me.

Ummmm what real top fights have they been in? What makes you think they will still be KO'ing opponents as they step up? Wilder's only "top fight" was vs Stiverne and I didn't see any KO there.

[Adonis Creed]

Ummmm what real top fights have they been in? What makes you think they will still be KO'ing opponents as they step up? Wilder's only "top fight" was vs Stiverne and I didn't see any KO there.

I was referring to the future. Hopefully they keep up the kos because boxing needs fighters like that.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

I was referring to the future. Hopefully they keep up the kos because boxing needs fighters like that.

Well, as many have pointed out, as competition gets tougher and there's MORE ON THE LINE, fighters start fighting more cautious.

[FinitoxDinamita]

Are you simply not watching?

Hopkins - knocked out
Paulie - knocked out
Brook - knocked out
Khan - knocked out
Haye - knocked out
Gentili - knocked out
Ugunoh - knocked out
Cota - knocked out
Hatton - knocked out
Duhaupas - knocked out

What the hell more do you want?

In most of the fights you listed, those fighters were expected to get knocked out because they were mismatches.

Brook? Lol did anybody expect any other outcome?

Paulie is a featherfisted bum and it isn't hard to knock him out.

I think you misunderstood the op's question.

[HAMMER77777]

Stfu who says i don't appreciate the skill all I'm saying is a fighter shouldn't only be able to ko bums especially if there one of the best fighters in the world. All I'm saying is these guys are hyped as big punchers but we only see then ko "tomato cans".




That exactly what i mean about all those fights you named,we always get these fights with alot of hype that are somewhat underwhelming not necessarily last night.

It's nothing special to ko an overmatched fighter like Canelo or ggg did or like most top prospects do. I know you can't always expect a knockout at the top level but if these guys are as good as they're hyped they should be able to ko elite fighters.

That's honestly why boxings losing popularity. We're all boxing fans here but 3.5/4 out of people watching don't give a **** about someone's footwork or using there reach or defense. If Leonard can ko hearns or holyfield can stop Tyson is it too much to ask in this day and age for one elite fighter to stop another?

I don't care about KO's. Don't get me wrong...I like them, but if they come, fine, if not, not. In baseball, I'd rather my team Win the game with singles, than hit 4 homers, and lose the game anyway. I like service aces in tennis, but if a big server hits 40 aces, yet loses the match to a defensive mover, what's the point? What I like is WINS. Floyd did That better than anyone. He didn't have to KO everyone. He just kept Winning.

[Combat Talk Radio]

In most of the fights you listed, those fighters were expected to get knocked out because they were mismatches.

Brook? Lol did anybody expect any other outcome?

Paulie is a featherfisted bum and it isn't hard to knock him out.

I think you misunderstood the op's question.

I understood the question, I'm saying it's the wrong question to be asking.

Boxing is called the sweet science for a reason. If knockouts happen, they happen. Expecting them to happen in every fight is faulty.

As a side note, it's a hindsight excuse to say all of the fighters were expected to get knocked out. Hopkins certainly wasn't, nor were guys like Gary Russell Jr. or David Haye.

Then you got Jermall Charlo sparking an undefeated Julian Williams with a beautiful cross uppercut-something.

My point is, knockouts happen in the classes and in the fights they're supposed to happen. The days of the 90's knockouts at the top of the betting pools are long gone and they're not coming back. No steroids, no frequent knockouts. Just look at what happened with Povetkin/Duhaupas.

[Pandur]

Are you simply not watching?

Hopkins - knocked out
Paulie - knocked out
Brook - knocked out
Khan - knocked out
Haye - knocked out
Gentili - knocked out
Ugunoh - knocked out
Cota - knocked out
Hatton - knocked out
Duhaupas - knocked out

What the hell more do you want?

Come on, you are not really counting that one?