does NSB have the power to MAKE Rigo vs Loma for Q4 '17?

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  • Lester Tutor
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    does NSB have the power to MAKE Rigo vs Loma for Q4 '17?

    I strongly believe much of our talks influence the rogue industry to make certain fights happen. We're a multi-consulting pool for the sweet science.

    Let's concede that Rigo is at his peak... and without enough fights to stay competitive that's his disadvantage...

    With Loma, let's not pretend that the Salido outcome was a fiasco. Ideally with 100 fights less than Rigo, that should not have happened...

    I think it's an even playing field, we've got youth vs a more experienced vet.

    Given those circumstances, can boxing writers HELP us get two baddass Olympians in the ring, please?

    After that we can move on. May the best man win. It's just very unfortunate that we're letting this bout slip away. Imo, it's WAYY more intriguing than May vs Pac...

    We can criticize Rigo for inactivity and perhaps not the right people around him, but c'mon let's please be honest, Arum messed up Rigo's career. It's HBO JOB to justify the performance to its subscribers. Kellerman seemed to have been the only OBJECTIVE commentator to justify Rigo's style.

    Arum not giving Walters more than 340+ days with inactivity. I HONESTLY believe that Walters is done, and he took a dive for the better with his family and future. Shıt man, for Walter's lifestyle and WHO knows what is behind the scenes when Arum is explaining the next bout for fighters, but I think Walters made a choice to just pass the torch and give in. A very flaky performance...
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    #2
    Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
    I strongly believe much of our talks influence the rogue industry to make certain fights happen. We're a multi-consulting pool for the sweet science.

    Let's concede that Rigo is at his peak... and without enough fights to stay competitive that's his disadvantage...

    With Loma, let's not pretend that the Salido outcome was a fiasco. Ideally with 100 fights less than Rigo, that should not have happened...

    I think it's an even playing field, we've got youth vs a more experienced vet.

    Given those circumstances, can boxing writers HELP us get two baddass Olympians in the ring, please?

    After that we can move on. May the best man win. It's just very unfortunate that we're letting this bout slip away. Imo, it's WAYY more intriguing than May vs Pac...

    We can criticize Rigo for inactivity and perhaps not the right people around him, but c'mon let's please be honest, Arum messed up Rigo's career. It's HBO JOB to justify the performance to its subscribers. Kellerman seemed to have been the only OBJECTIVE commentator to justify Rigo's style.

    Arum not giving Walters more than 340+ days with inactivity. I HONESTLY believe that Walters is done, and he took a dive for the better with his family and future. Shıt man, for Walter's lifestyle and WHO knows what is behind the scenes when Arum is explaining the next bout for fighters, but I think Walters made a choice to just pass the torch and give in. A very flaky performance...
    The only people that criticize Rigo are Arum and his goons. Almost every boxing fan knows it's a good but dangerous matchup for Loma. Arum doesn't want him to lose against a guy smaller than him and lose his starpower.

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    • NEETzsche
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      #3
      Rigondeaux should've accepted the $500k at 126. Lomachenko isn't going to move down in weight now, and Arum isn't going to offer Rigondeaux more now than he did back then

      Rigo's too small anyway, it's not a fully fair fight. It'd be like Crawford vs Gamboa

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        #4
        Originally posted by NEETzsche
        Rigondeaux should've accepted the $500k at 126. Lomachenko isn't going to move down in weight now, and Arum isn't going to offer Rigondeaux more now than he did back then

        Rigo's too small anyway, it's not a fully fair fight. It'd be like Crawford vs Gamboa
        How is it not a fair fight. Wasn'T the original regarding a catch and a max rehydration clause?

        Why does Rigo have to submit to a lower pay than Loma? How!?? Rigo BEAT Donaire on HBO soil. Why did he have to suffer for it? Did Arum make the wrong bet? Something doesn't play out.

        Ideally shouldn't Loma vs Donaire already happened? Is Arum waiting for Donaire to hopefully win another title at Feather? From there, match them up?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
          Why does Rigo have to submit to a lower pay than Loma? How!?? Rigo BEAT Donaire on HBO soil. Why did he have to suffer for it? Did Arum make the wrong bet? Something doesn't play out.
          Because Rigo has no financial backing and no fans. $500k at 126 lbs was a very fair offer for him considering that he has nothing else of any interest going on in his career

          Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
          Ideally shouldn't Loma vs Donaire already happened? Is Arum waiting for Donaire to hopefully win another title at Feather? From there, match them up?
          Donaire is two divisions below Lomachenko. I thought that fight might have happened back when Loma was at 126, but it's not that interesting anyway

          At the end of the day, Lomachenko is two divisions above Rigondeaux right now and has the world at his feet. Why should he move down in weight and give Rigondeaux a 50% purse split, as you seem to be demanding? Why should he bend over backwards for this guy who has pissed his own career away? If Rigondeaux truly wanted the fight, he should have made more of an effort than talking **** on Twitter and then rejecting the good offer he received

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            #6
            Originally posted by NEETzsche
            Because Rigo has no financial backing and no fans. $500k at 126 lbs was a very fair offer for him considering that he has nothing else of any interest going on in his career


            Donaire is two divisions below Lomachenko. I thought that fight might have happened back when Loma was at 126, but it's not that interesting anyway

            At the end of the day, Lomachenko is two divisions above Rigondeaux right now and has the world at his feet. Why should he move down in weight and give Rigondeaux a 50% purse split, as you seem to be demanding? Why should he bend over backwards for this guy who has pissed his own career away? If Rigondeaux truly wanted the fight, he should have made more of an effort than talking **** on Twitter and then rejecting the good offer he received
            let me throw some irony to you from my original post...

            What do we have to do to make the fight? Or are you content? You are saying why should Loma ...

            Dude, Rigo was a lineal champ 4 years coming in

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
              let me throw some irony to you from my original post...

              What do we have to do to make the fight? Or are you content? You are saying why should Loma ...

              Dude, Rigo was a lineal champ 4 years coming in
              I would watch the fight if it was signed but I don't think it's necessary considering the size difference. I would rather see Loma face good fighters of his own size like Corrales, Berchelt, Davis, Gamboa, or slightly bigger than him like Mikey Garcia and Linares

              I also don't believe Rigondeaux ever truly wanted to face Lomachenko considering the good offer he declined

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                #8
                Originally posted by NEETzsche
                I would watch the fight if it was signed but I don't think it's necessary considering the size difference. I would rather see Loma face good fighters of his own size like Corrales, Berchelt, Davis, Gamboa, or slightly bigger than him like Mikey Garcia and Linares

                I also don't believe Rigondeaux ever truly wanted to face Lomachenko considering the good offer he declined
                yeah man just blame it on Rigondeaux...

                anybody can say ''I would just watch it..''

                point is for optimism vs skepticism...

                we need productive threads. not theories for what fighters ''think''

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
                  yeah man just blame it on Rigondeaux...

                  anybody can say ''I would just watch it..''

                  point is for optimism vs skepticism...

                  we need productive threads. not theories for what fighters ''think''
                  The ship has simply sailed on this one. There's too much distance between them now

                  I can't even really fault Rigondeaux for declining it because he would be at such a disadvantage in the ring

                  Why not spend your energy calling for more makable and interesting fights like Lomachenko vs Mikey? Mikey has a better chance at beating Loma than Rigo does

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by NEETzsche
                    The ship has simply sailed on this one. There's too much distance between them now

                    I can't even really fault Rigondeaux for declining it because he would be at such a disadvantage in the ring

                    Why not spend your energy calling for more makable and interesting fights like Lomachenko vs Mikey? Mikey has a better chance at beating Loma than Rigo does
                    ironically you're talking about disadvantage...

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