Stick a fork in him: Wilder is DONE

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  • The Gambler1981
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    #71
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    You either do not watch enough boxing or are purposefully missing the point. Purse bids can be postponed, mandos can be postponed in face of a possible unification.

    On top of all that, Stiverne does not even deserve to be a mando, or do you think he does?
    Wilder hasn't had a mandatory in a long time which is part of the reason I am sure in just naming Stiverne the mandatory rather than having him jump through hoops. There is no one available for unification, so there is no one he could say is on the hook for a mandatory so there is no possible unification right now.

    I have already said I was not really on board with their decisions because 1) Stiverne has done anything since losing to Wilder and 2) he barely won a round in that fight so if a guy gets dominated they should have to go above and beyond to get a mandatory shot. I am not the WBC though so my opinion on the matter doesn't mean a thing, it is just a fight WIlder has to do to keep the belt. As long as it is done quickly he can get to better fights in the fall which would be the case anyway considering the other guys are fighting in late April and early May anyway so as long as they go quickly it is better than fighting it and only having to end up in the same spot.

    I obviously understand the sport better than you do~ so don't run your mouth about things you clearly do not get

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    • soul_survivor
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      #72
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      Wilder hasn't had a mandatory in a long time which is part of the reason I am sure in just naming Stiverne the mandatory rather than having him jump through hoops. There is no one available for unification, so there is no one he could say is on the hook for a mandatory so there is no possible unification right now.

      I have already said I was not really on board with their decisions because 1) Stiverne has done anything since losing to Wilder and 2) he barely won a round in that fight so if a guy gets dominated they should have to go above and beyond to get a mandatory shot. I am not the WBC though so my opinion on the matter doesn't mean a thing, it is just a fight WIlder has to do to keep the belt. As long as it is done quickly he can get to better fights in the fall which would be the case anyway considering the other guys are fighting in late April and early May anyway so as long as they go quickly it is better than fighting it and only having to end up in the same spot.

      I obviously understand the sport better than you do~ so don't run your mouth about things you clearly do not get
      You keep saying no one is available but AJ and Wlad are done by April 20 something. 22nd isnt it? I cant remember.

      the winner is available.

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #73
        Originally posted by soul_survivor
        You keep saying no one is available but AJ and Wlad are done by April 20 something. 22nd isnt it? I cant remember.

        the winner is available.
        The purse bid is called for in 30 days from yesterday. What happens first that purse bid or April 22nd? They won't have anything set in stone that Wilder is fighting the winner but that is not really down to Wilder because that winner wouldn't want to be tied down like that.

        There is no way for them to really put that off further unless Parker become free because Fury's drug situation but that still has to play out.

        It is what it is, if and maybes are not going to make this go away, so better to just bite the bullet fight Stiverne and get it over with unless Parker becomes available but he is still going to have to fight Stiverne in his next few fights.

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        • soul_survivor
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          #74
          The excuses no longer even make sense smh

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            #75
            Done? He's undefeated! Come on now!

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              #76
              Originally posted by HAMMER77777
              Done? He's undefeated! Come on now!
              Name me 3 world class fighters he has fought, which makes his undefeated record mean something.

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                #77
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                Name me 3 world class fighters he has fought, which makes his undefeated record mean something.
                I agree. He hasn't. But that doesn't mean he's "done". There's a big difference between "unproven" and "done". The title of this thread uses the word "done".

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by HAMMER77777
                  I agree. He hasn't. But that doesn't mean he's "done". There's a big difference between "unproven" and "done". The title of this thread uses the word "done".
                  He's done because in the last 3 years, he has regressed as a fighter. I can not imagine him betaing any worthy heavyweights. Try readin the first post.

                  And calling someone who holds the wbc heavyweight crown unproven is a sad, sad look at Wilders career. What a joke he is as a "sportsman".

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    He's done because in the last 3 years, he has regressed as a fighter. I can not imagine him betaing any worthy heavyweights. Try readin the first post.

                    And calling someone who holds the wbc heavyweight crown unproven is a sad, sad look at Wilders career. What a joke he is as a "sportsman".
                    None of that equals "done". If the belt was available, and he Fought all mandatories, who can blame him? He called out JP, AJ, etc.. Let's unify the division, then call someone "done". I guess we disagree on the definition of "done". Jeff Lacy is done. A current belt holder in any division, is by definition not "done", LOL. We'll see who he's "betaing". Then I'll finish "readin".

                    Even, worst case scenario, if AJ knocks him out in 2 rounds, he's not "done". When someone is in the top 10 of anything, they are not "done" LOL. To me, even Brian Villoria is not "done".
                    Last edited by HAMMER77777; 02-28-2017, 08:03 PM.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666
                      Go look at motor city cobras gif at the end it clearly shows exactly what i posted and thats Washington who casually walks away after the wave off by the ref . Wilder had him hurt but the fight should have continued .....its a title fight .
                      I was there, don't need the gif. But you're entitled to your opinion.

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