Comments Thread For: Dominic Breazeale Knocks Out Izu Ugonoh in Dramatic Fight

[Golden Boi 360]

Maybe all those people calling for a super-heavyweight division are right.

[SkillspayBills]

I really know boxing man, sometimes I surprise myself lol. I could tell from the start of the round that Dominic was FINALLY throwing feints and a stiff jab. Once I saw him feint to the body I knew he was setting up that right hand up top. What an awesome fight that was. Borderline fight of the year.

[RedZmaja]

Maybe all those people calling for a super-heavyweight division are right.

No, that would suck. The heavyweight division is the marquee division of boxing and the reason why this is so is because there is no upper limit. Introducing the division with the name super-heavyweight would just create confusion and take the glory away from the heavyweight division while not becoming the glorious marquee division itself because the name super-heavyweight has no history in pro boxing. The name heavyweight division should be reserved for the highest division with no upper limit.

Also, where would you make the limit? If it's at say 250 or 260 all those big HWs would simply cut down and the super-HW division would be the fat boy division of 300lbs out of shape guys that would lose to HWs moving up.

I think the best way would be to just make another cruiserweight division (let's call it super-cruiserweight) with the upper limit of 220 and move the current cruiserweight division's limit down to 190 again. That way the jump from 175 to CW isn't as high and we get another division for smaller HWs and big cruiserweights.

[lex_fugitive]

I think the best way would be to just make another cruiserweight division (let's call it super-cruiserweight) with the upper limit of 220 and move the current cruiserweight division's limit down to 190 again.

I could see that, do the same thing, but keep the name heavyweight for the top division. A couple problems though...

First, 220 is still too low. 230 maybe. Second, there is no minimum weight for any fight, so the fighters in the new super-cruiser would still be fighting the heavy's or super-heavy's. It would probably just make more belts. How many real super-heavy's are there though??? Wilder is in the 220's, but he beat a bigger fighter in Washington and would do the same to Brazeale. Wilder isn't that big, he is rather small, he is just tall and long. And many thought PEDvetkin would beat him at his barely over 200 frame.

I don't know if it would work or not, but yea it really isn't fair when some 6 foot or 6'2 fighter is facing Wlad, Joshua, or Wilder. But yea, even if it didn't work, they still should do something. 200 is just way too low today.

[RedZmaja]

I could see that, do the same thing, but keep the name heavyweight for the top division. A couple problems though...

First, 220 is still too low. 230 maybe. Second, there is no minimum weight for any fight, so the fighters in the new super-cruiser would still be fighting the heavy's or super-heavy's. It would probably just make more belts. How many real super-heavy's are there though??? Wilder is in the 220's, but he beat a bigger fighter in Washington and would do the same to Brazeale. Wilder isn't that big, he is rather small, he is just tall and long. And many thought PEDvetkin would beat him at his barely over 200 frame.

I don't know if it would work or not, but yea it really isn't fair when some 6 foot or 6'2 fighter is facing Wlad, Joshua, or Wilder. But yea, even if it didn't work, they still should do something. 200 is just way too low today.

Part of the problem is that the jump from 175 to 200 is way to high. Even the top guys from 175 like Ward and Kovalev would have big problems against many CWs.

If the upper limit for CW would be 190 as it once was it would be much better. But then you'd have to make another super-CW division and IMO 220 seems OK, when you're that big cutting 20 pounds from 240 to 220 doesn't seem such a problem. 230 is too high IMO, I can even see Fury or Breezy doing this cut if they were put on a strict diet and did a Canelo-like drastic cut. Klitschko for example could definitely make it at least few years ago. Joshua makes that cut with ease. So pretty much all of the most known super-HWs would be able to drop down and then blow up in weight again on fight night, so 230 wouldn't solve anything really.

I think these changes will inevitably have to be made in the future. I actually don't want them to be implemented right now, because like you said, there aren't that many super-HWs yet. But their number seems to be rising. Out of the elite ones there used to be like only Klitschko brothers for a while, now we have Joshua and Fury in the mix. Ortiz is a huge guy too, even if not as tall while Wilder is extremely tall for his weight and has power. Then there's a couple of fringe contenders who are really big as well.

It's reasonable to expect that in 10 years time we'll have twice as many elite and fringe contender super-HWs and practically all the belts will be held by them. The CW and the potential super-CW divisions will also get more and more stacked as pro boxing is now extremely popular in Eastern Europe and is getting popular in Western and Central Africa, regions which are known for having many naturally big and muscular men. Cubans seem to produce a lot of big fighters as well.

So when the heavier divisions will inevitably have to be reconstructed, I really hope they'll add another CW division instead of building a super-HW one.

[BoxingFan85]

The guy with a better engine survived to win.. Brazeale had moment where he was almost on the verge of going down for good.. but he did the right thing and attacked ugonoh from the bell of round 5.. but brazeale exposed the major flaw in ugonohs skills- stamina.. hope Brazeale works on his stamina on his next fight..

[Lomasexual]

Izu looked good until he gassed. The problem is he started to gas in the middle of the second round, and was looking to clinch instead of move.

His body work was good, maybe really good - but he wasn't doing enough to defend himself. He was throwing in bunches, which is good, but was kind of leaving himself open at the same time. Before he gassed he was mobile enough, moving in and out - although he could definitely work on his angles. When he gassed though, it got really sloppy.
It was maddening watching his hands drop. He didn't even have the stamina to last a couple of rounds with his hands up.

He probably wont get much further in the division until he fixes his conditioning. It is much more urgent than him working on fixing technical deficiencies. He didn't lose to the better boxer (although Breazeale was more disciplined) he lost to his own conditioning.

Technically you would say that his offense was good, and his defence was poor. But his defence will be better when his stamina improves - and it needs to improve a lot.

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GIFS: Breazeale vs. Ugonoh

[tommyg6]

awesome! now let's see Joshua-Brazeale 2!! He's back! lol jk

[asgarth]

Izu should train with chakhkiev lol