Luis Ortiz now enrolled and has passed WBC CBP/VADA

**-PBP-** · 02-24-2017, 05:32 PM

He's ranked #2 behind Stiverne. That's an easy W for him. Knock off the #1 contender and take the mandatory spot.

**yammy25** · 02-24-2017, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by -PBP-

He's ranked #2 behind Stiverne. That's an easy W for him. Knock off the #1 contender and take the mandatory spot.

What do you make of Stiverne saying he wont fight another eliminator due to the povetkin problems?

do you think stiverne should fight the eliminator against ortiz, or get a pass and fight wilder next ?

**-PBP-** · 02-24-2017, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by yammy25

What do you make of Stiverne saying he wont fight another eliminator due to the povetkin problems?

do you think stiverne should fight the eliminator against ortiz, or get a pass and fight wilder next ?

Stiverne has beaten no one since he lost to Wilder. He's done nothing to earn a title shot. It should be Ortiz vs. Stiverne in the title eliminator.

**Sadiqkingofko** · 02-24-2017, 06:14 PM

He still has a history of cheating, I don't know how he can have the fans forget this

**yammy25** · 02-24-2017, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko

He still has a history of cheating, I don't know how he can have the fans forget this

see its **** like that, that gives people like wilder a free pass to never fight him.

It was years ago, he has tested for fights since and been clean. He is now in a voluntary 365 testing for the WBC. he is allowed to fight for that belt..

but people like you sit and give cause to champions ducking him.

**KillaCamNZ** · 02-24-2017, 06:17 PM

Unless he is forced to via mandatory - no, I don't believe Wilder will fight him. Wilder isn't looking to step up voluntarily - gotta force him.

**RomanReigns** · 02-24-2017, 06:31 PM

Wilder needs to man up, and fight him

**Scipio2009** · 02-24-2017, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by yammy25

http://wbcboxing.com/WBCVADA/testimonials/

With papa Ortiz now being successfully enrolled in the program, and apparently passing according to WBC/VADA, what are the chances of Wilder giving him his next fight?

Or any fight...

Discuss.

As a voluntary? Zero. Let him become WBC mandatory and he can get the work

**The plunger man** · 02-24-2017, 09:59 PM

Stiverne has already said he's not fighting ortiz so he should forfeit the mandatory shot now.....my theory really is this.....ortiz will become mandatory for wilders title...joshua could very well go the haye or fight with parker ( more that likely he beats fury ) which will force wilder to defend against the mandatory ortiz..if ortiz beats wilder that then creates a unifciation between joshua and ortiz who are both promoted by hearn and would again be a sell out at wembley stadium...hearn cannot lose either no matter who wins between wilder and ortiz and really what we have to realise is wilder brings absolutely no money to the table even in his own country so hearn might as well make the big miney here and keep the titles in his stable .....i can see wilder having to fight ortiz as his mandatory

Luis Ortiz now enrolled and has passed WBC CBP/VADA