Toe-To-Toe Art....

[Run]

Oh and just to add another idea.

Real fighters like Arce, Castillo, Corrales etc have a method to throwing as many clubbing punches.

Hypothetically
If you concealed a red button on the other side of a clay shell exterior, they would attack with rapid punches trying to dig and hit the button with a hard shot once it's exposed.

That's contradictory to alot of purists who would rather take a step back and only swing at an area they think the button is concealed in, and only swing when they have the opportunity.



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[jabsRstiff]

[QUOTE=DiegoFuego]The problem with taking some to land some is that it's nothing to be respected. Not everyone is blessed with a good chin, so you should really admire the guys that hit and not get hit because THEY are athletes. Guys that go in and brawl like wild are not athletes in the same sense that the boxers are. I mean how hard is it to go in and throw haymakers like an idiot when you have a good chin? You can't tell me, for instance, that the Mayorga's, Castillo's and Corrales' are as good of athletes as the Mayweather's, De La Hoya's, etc. That's just ridiculous.[/QUOTE]


Please find who it is who is telling you that, son.
It ain't me.

All I'm saying with this post is.....Boxing is not all about lots of movement, jabs, & racking up points.
Standing with your foe, & getting inside of his attack with your more sophisticated stuff- doing damage....is boxing, also.

[DiegoFuego]

[QUOTE=jabsRstiff]

The problem with taking some to land some is that it's nothing to be respected. Not everyone is blessed with a good chin, so you should really admire the guys that hit and not get hit because THEY are athletes. Guys that go in and brawl like wild are not athletes in the same sense that the boxers are. I mean how hard is it to go in and throw haymakers like an idiot when you have a good chin? You can't tell me, for instance, that the Mayorga's, Castillo's and Corrales' are as good of athletes as the Mayweather's, De La Hoya's, etc. That's just ridiculous.[/QUOTE]


Please find who it is who is telling you that, son.
It ain't me.

All I'm saying with this post is.....Boxing is not all about lots of movement, jabs, & racking up points.
Standing with your foe, & getting inside of his attack with your more sophisticated stuff- doing damage....is boxing, also.

I didn't accuse you of anything. I agree that it isn't easy to fight inside, but it's even harder to learn how to box.

[Run]

I didn't accuse you of anything. I agree that it isn't easy to fight inside, but it's even harder to learn how to box.

The fear of getting punched in the face is a great motivator. That's the only reason why I can see grown men running away from another grown man in the ring.



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[jabsRstiff]

I didn't accuse you of anything. I agree that it isn't easy to fight inside, but it's even harder to learn how to box.

Depends on what you think is boxing.
You think it's harder for a tall, lanky guy to keep a foe out at the end of his jab.....than it is for a smaller guy to get up in a foe's wheelhouse, avoiding/getting through the incoming, & work well ? I say, "no way" to that.

[boxstarr]

taking shots and brawling is just as athletic as the dancing around style of boxing

different sports are just as athletic but require different athletic skills

the same is true of different fighting styles

also...it depends on what your strengths and weaknesses and instincts are as to which style you find harder

[chidave]

Watch some old tapes of J.C. Chavez if you think that "brawling" is lessed skilled as boxing. Anyone can come in and wing, but when you watch a fighter like Chavez, his eyes wide open while he's getting hit, looking for openings..doubling the left hook..it's like an artist painting a picture. The truley great ones don't just come in and wing, they use tact and strategy that is every bit as impressive as anyone who "boxes".

[jabsRstiff]

Watch some old tapes of J.C. Chavez if you think that "brawling" is lessed skilled as boxing. Anyone can come in and wing, but when you watch a fighter like Chavez, his eyes wide open while he's getting hit, looking for openings..doubling the left hook..it's like an artist painting a picture. The truley great ones don't just come in and wing, they use tact and strategy that is every bit as impressive as anyone who "boxes".

Beautiful, accurate post.

[baya]

Beautiful, accurate post.

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[{BrownBomber}]

You've been making really good threads lately buster.

I agree....keep it up jabs.
the fight to watch for a perfect example of toe to toe art is 1984 Chavez vs Martinez.