Question For Boxing Fans: Has Canelo Genuinely Improved Since Fighting Floyd?

[bigdunny1]

of course he's improved. He was a young green pup when he fought Floyd. Little to no big fight experience at that point. And was not at a optimal weight to boot. He still hasn't even peaked yet get's better every time out out and is just now entering his physical prime. You either just a hater or ignorant to boxing to say he hasn't gotten better. The issue is style makes fights and it will always be a bad style against Floyd. Historically Floyd has never had problems with counter punchers which is why Marquez a similar timing counter puncher as Canelo struggled badly and was white washed against Floyd. Yet Manny who Marquez knocked out cold won more rounds against Floyd then Marquez did. Aggressive come forward fighters have won more rounds and been more competitive against floyd then counterpunchers. Nobody thinks a crude one dimensional fighter like Maidana is a better fighter then Marquez who is a first ballot HOF but his style gives Floyd more trouble so his fight was closer. Floyd a defensive counter puncher himself is not going to be beaten by a counter puncher who try and out think and out skill Floyd. If they fought now the fight would be closer but Canelo likely still loses unless Floyd is compromised by age and long layoff or Canelo fights totally different out of his comfort zone.

By nature Canelo is not a brawler or chaser and guys who can apply that type of pressure have had more success against Floyd. And even fighting that style don't guarantee you win, Floyd has NEVER been beaten and has accomplished so much for a reason he's that damn good if Canelo is never good enough to beat him that's not a knock there is countless hall of famers who couldn't either.

[The Gambler1981]

He is pretty much the exact same guy, he was always a really good boxer but his style has limitations giving his physical abilities and attributes.

None of this stuff has changed, he still struggles when he has to chase a fight or move with a guy to land his shots. He just doesn't have the boxing knack for doing two or three things at the same time while on the move and that is really not something that can change.


Still a good boxer when he can set his feet though with good power, and has pretty good defense.

[Caught Square]

I do believe I mentioned that I was referring to the active fighter version of Floyd bruv.

Oh right yeah you did, well if he fought the 2015 Floyd I would pick Canelo but if it's the 2013 Floyd he lost to then I think he loses in similar fashion.

[bojangles1987]

It's hard to say. His only fight with someone similar is Lara, who he struggled mightily against and arguably lost to, and is also quite a stretch to call "similar" to Mayweather. We have no idea how he improved he really is.

Luckily for him there is no one similar around to test this.