Draws should be Outlawed

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  • pacmanis1
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    #11
    Originally posted by anthonydavid11
    Oh yeah, man. I agree. And I do agree with open scoring. The crowd could react as the fight went along too which is more transparent, but to each their own. I mean, other sports show the scoreboard as the game goes along. It's something else to make the fans engage which I think is always a good idea.
    I can definitely see the argument for open scoring and don't really think it's a bad idea. However I love the suspense of when the scorecards are being read, because for better or worse, you never really know how it's going to turn out. The only fight that I can remember with open scoring was Trout vs Canelo and while I had Canelo winning, I thought the scores were way off. I just remember watching it and thinking Trout was getting robbed in front of my eyes. It kinda ruined the fight for me in a way.

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      #12
      Originally posted by pacmanis1
      I can definitely see the argument for open scoring and don't really think it's a bad idea. However I love the suspense of when the scorecards are being read, because for better or worse, you never really know how it's going to turn out. The only fight that I can remember with open scoring was Trout vs Canelo and while I had Canelo winning, I thought the scores were way off. I just remember watching it and thinking Trout was getting robbed in front of my eyes. It kinda ruined the fight for me in a way.
      It kills the anticipation, although I can see in a close fight that comes down to the last round that you don't show that until the scorecards are announced. Could make it a bit more interesting.

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      • pacmanis1
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        #13
        Originally posted by revelated
        Well, during the days of 15 rounds, a draw became numerically impossible. But then the Ray Mancini/Kim Duk-koo incident happened, and that was the beginning of the end. Why they settled on an even number? Who knows.
        I've always longed for the days of 15 rounders again. Know it'll never happen but I always questioned how Pacquiao and Marquez 1-3 would have turned out with 15 rounds. I guess it's for the best but 15 seemed to be just right. 13 or 11 just seem weird.

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          #14
          Originally posted by revelated
          Well, during the days of 15 rounds, a draw became numerically impossible. But then the Ray Mancini/Kim Duk-koo incident happened, and that was the beginning of the end. Why they settled on an even number? Who knows.
          Not necessarily. A round can be even. There can be a 10-8 round. There were draws in 15 Rounders.

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          • Combat Talk Radio
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            #15
            Originally posted by HAMMER77777
            Not necessarily. A round can be even. There can be a 10-8 round. There were draws in 15 Rounders.
            There were draws if there were knockdowns. I'm talking about fights with no knockdowns. There's nothing in the scorebook allowing someone to score a fight 10-10 or 9-9 unless there was a knockdown.

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              #16
              They should get on the scales after a draw has been announced on the score cards. The fighter that has rehydrated the least, wins for good sportsmanship and in the spirit of the sport.

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                #17
                Originally posted by revelated
                There were draws if there were knockdowns. I'm talking about fights with no knockdowns. There's nothing in the scorebook allowing someone to score a fight 10-10 or 9-9 unless there was a knockdown.
                This is wrong. Rounds can (and occasionally do) get scored 10-10. Also rounds CAN be 10-8 without a knockdown. If a fighter is thoroughly dominant, a round can be 10-8 without a knockdown. Also rounds can certainly be 10-10. I often score even rounds, if I can't find a clear Winner. Read this....many judges seem to forget that 10-10 is an option. In fact, when I score, every round to me, is 10-10 by default, unless, someone does something that convinces me that they Won 10-9. All things equal, I'm at 10-10 by default. I realize most judges dont do this but I do. On average, in A 12 Rounder, I usually find 2 Or 3 Rounds even.

                https://www.*************.com/thread...-10-10.278466/

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by HAMMER77777
                  This is wrong. Rounds can (and occasionally do) get scored 10-10. Also rounds CAN be 10-8 without a knockdown. If a fighter is thoroughly dominant, a round can be 10-8 without a knockdown. Also rounds can certainly be 10-10. I often score even rounds, if I can't find a clear Winner. Read this....many judges seem to forget that 10-10 is an option. In fact, when I score, every round to me, is 10-10 by default, unless, someone does something that convinces me that they Won 10-9. All things equal, I'm at 10-10 by default. I realize most judges dont do this but I do. On average, in A 12 Rounder, I usually find 2 Or 3 Rounds even.

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                  The bold part is all that matters.

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                  • HAMMER77777
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by revelated
                    The bold part is all that matters.
                    That doesn't mean they can't. So it is possible. I buy The Lottery Every Week. I usually don't Win Anything Really Big, but it doesn't mean I can't. A 10-10 round is a legal score.

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                    • Damn Wicked
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                      #20
                      I'd prefer 13 rounds over 12.

                      It would be exciting to see 2 fighters fight a tie-breaker final round. It would be 'do or die", "sink or swim".
                      I bet it would create some dramatic boxing moments.

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