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  • #41
    Pacman never ducked a challenge, he is by far the much smaller fighter than Floyd and fought huge guys like Margarito who Floyd ducked.

    Floyd ducked Margarito and Paul Williams clearly.

    Floyd also ducked almost every fighter he fought in their respective prime or weight bullied them. Then Floyd usually stunk the joint out in all of his fights, thats why 90% of the people tuned in to watch him lose, not because they liked to see him.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Jubei View Post
      Pacman never ducked a challenge, he is by far the much smaller fighter than Floyd and fought huge guys like Margarito who Floyd ducked.

      Floyd ducked Margarito and Paul Williams clearly.

      Floyd also ducked almost every fighter he fought in their respective prime or weight bullied them. Then Floyd usually stunk the joint out in all of his fights, thats why 90% of the people tuned in to watch him lose, not because they liked to see him.
      Nobody really cared about Paul Williams at the time and noone considered him the best welterweight, he was a big dangerous guy that was still coming up, and when Floyd came back he was already at 154. Margarito somehow earned the fight after he beat Cotto but before that the Baldomir fight made more sense because he was the lineal champion + Floyd has just gotten away from Bob Arum and you don't leave a job and do business with ur ex boss right away.

      Maragrito's career after he got caught with the illegal wraps is not better than Baldomir's career, that illegal handwrap scandal can't be ignored and it can be that he used it for more than one fight.

      I can write you a long list of names of fighters Floyd called out and wanted to fight before the Dela Hoya fight but got turned down because he wasn't big enough a star. Floyd beat more current champions and current P4P rated fighters than anyone in that era and these are facts.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Hummmm, it was a negotiation not the NSAC rules.

        Remember where Manny complained even BEFORE the negotiations started, in a video, that he felt that giving blood affected his performance against Morales? So Manny, who never did drug testing during the training period and just before a fight, thought it would be a disadvantage.

        Floyd fans and Floyd called that BS. Giving <1 tbsp. of blood 5 or 6 times does not affect training/fight. OK, no problem but that was Manny's concern.

        but

        May 1st 2015, Floyd uses a banned method and his excuse was that he had to have an IV instead of the alternative, drinking fluids and used these BS excuses as to why he needed an IV:
        - gave urine
        - gave <1 tbsp. blood 10 days before
        - exercised a bit the day before.

        Floyd and his fans believed Floyd's BS story that is in conflict with what they all said was BS for 6 years!!!!
        mannny complained abbout the blood test affecting him in the first morales fight?? i thought it was him not having his punchers gloves HAHAHAH ROFL. you pac-tards eat up anything this little ****er says. WHY??

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Bjl12 View Post
          If you are American you definitely voted for Trump because everything - every single point you tried to make - is literally bull****.

          Get your GED and then we can talk

          Sorry but YOU DEFLECTING with what you said is just that. A DEFLECTION! Man, some of you Floyd fans love doing that instead of proving your point.

          What the freak do my points have to do with an election? That is absurd!

          BTW - Your statement is wrong on all counts anyways! Continue with that streak of being WRONG!

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          • #45
            Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            Hummmm, it was a negotiation not the NSAC rules.

            Remember where Manny complained even BEFORE the negotiations started, in a video, that he felt that giving blood affected his performance against Morales? So Manny, who never did drug testing during the training period and just before a fight, thought it would be a disadvantage.

            Floyd fans and Floyd called that BS. Giving <1 tbsp. of blood 5 or 6 times does not affect training/fight. OK, no problem but that was Manny's concern.

            but

            May 1st 2015, Floyd uses a banned method and his excuse was that he had to have an IV instead of the alternative, drinking fluids and used these BS excuses as to why he needed an IV:
            - gave urine
            - gave <1 tbsp. blood 10 days before
            - exercised a bit the day before.

            Floyd and his fans believed Floyd's BS story that is in conflict with what they all said was BS for 6 years!!!!
            Originally posted by bambam182 View Post
            mannny complained abbout the blood test affecting him in the first morales fight?? i thought it was him not having his punchers gloves HAHAHAH ROFL. you pac-tards eat up anything this little ****er says. WHY??
            Maybe you do not know but Manny had to give blood just before the Morales fight and he said it affected him. Sure, if he prefers fighting with punchers gloves and ends up fighting with gloves that he was not used to or do not prefer, of course that can affect you.


            BUT

            I see you avoided the similar point in which Floyd made with giving blood. Actually, Floyd's was worse since he said giving <1 tbsp. of blood 10 days before affected him so much that he had to have an IV which is banned according to WADA!!!

            Simple question:
            Do you believe Floyd's BS or you think he is guilty of using a banned method since you implied that Manny's giving blood excuse was BS.


            BTW - You are not happy about Manny stated a couple of reasons for his fight, well, Floyd used 3 silly excuses for the reason to use a banned method. One excuse was worse than the next. I didn't see you complaining about Floyd.
            Last edited by ADP02; 02-19-2017, 08:40 PM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Jubei View Post
              Pacman never ducked a challenge, he is by far the much smaller fighter than Floyd and fought huge guys like Margarito who Floyd ducked.

              Floyd ducked Margarito and Paul Williams clearly.

              Floyd also ducked almost every fighter he fought in their respective prime or weight bullied them. Then Floyd usually stunk the joint out in all of his fights, thats why 90% of the people tuned in to watch him lose, not because they liked to see him.

              Margarito: Bob Arum even had Margarito wait it out on scheduling an alternative fight to get a fight made with Floyd.

              Paul Williams: Said that if Floyd wanted the fight all Floyd had to do is ask Al Haymon and its done.

              Paul Williams vs Margarito happened, lots of fights happened. Floyd fought instead several WWs that were better known for their performances below WW division (Juan Marquez, Hatton, Ortiz, Sharmba, ....)

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              • #47
                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Maybe you do not know but Manny had to give blood just before the Morales fight and he said it affected him. Sure, if he prefers fighting with punchers gloves and ends up fighting with gloves that he was not used to or do not prefer, of course that can affect you.


                BUT

                I see you avoided the similar point in which Floyd made with giving blood. Actually, Floyd's was worse since he said giving <1 tbsp. of blood 10 days before affected him so much that he had to have an IV which is banned according to WADA!!!

                Simple question:
                Do you believe Floyd's BS or you think he is guilty of using a banned method since you implied that Manny's giving blood excuse was BS.
                ROFLMBO HAHAHAHAHAH you pac-tards are pathetic. im laughing at the bold super hard. PAC ALSO SAID THE SALT WATER HEALED HIM, DID YOU BELIEVE THAT ALSO??? you ever heard what skin the gloves means? ****ing idiot. i can tell yourknew to boxing.

                floyd still whooped his ass giving blood also. about the IV why didnt you tards make a deal when de lahoya did that 30 mins before the pac fight? oh because he lost to pac, so it didnt matter, but since pac lost to floyd then it TOTALLY matters.

                all you tards need to be sent to concentration camps.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by bambam182 View Post
                  ROFLMBO HAHAHAHAHAH you pac-tards are pathetic. im laughing at the bold super hard. PAC ALSO SAID THE SALT WATER HEALED HIM, DID YOU BELIEVE THAT ALSO??? you ever heard what skin the gloves means? ****ing idiot. i can tell yourknew to boxing.

                  floyd still whooped his ass giving blood also. about the IV why didnt you tards make a deal when de lahoya did that 30 mins before the pac fight? oh because he lost to pac, so it didnt matter, but since pac lost to floyd then it TOTALLY matters.

                  all you tards need to be sent to concentration camps.
                  MORE DEFLECTIONS. What's wrong with you Floyd fans?

                  I bring up questions and you deflect.

                  You can give an opinion of what you believe and do not, no problem but then similar points on other fighters, you do not even attempt to respond because YOU KNOW that it would make you a hypocrite if you said "I believe Floyd"


                  WRONG on all counts. I have been watching boxing since the Ali years .... I have played enough sports to know that some things can affect you either due to it being different than what you are used to and/or psychologically. Maybe its YOU that does not get that .... well, that is your problem then.

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                  • #49
                    All that wait for nothing they should of fought at their peaks.

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                    • #50
                      Pacquiao is the one who wanted Floyd to just let the commission do their job.

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