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  • #11
    Originally posted by m00ks
    Its dumb, you have a prospect who is only 12-0 and your saying that he'll knock out a veteran and champ of 2 div (3 with ring). Makes me question Ficher's credability.
    Yea, does valero even have any fan base? other than that one guy from that one boxingwebsite?
    at least put his ass on solo boxeo against JCC, Jr. or something to prove hisself.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by boxernyc
      I too found his Valero obsession a little weird. He seemed good but not so good as to warrant his doe eyed fascination. And his prediction of KOing Pacman is ridiculous. Especially when from what I hear coming out of Pacuiao's training camps he is knocking out heavyweights. His next sparring partners are Silver Back Gorrillas. He then plans to move on to King Kong and Godzilla.
      hahahahhahha

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      • #13
        You guys say that it is dumb and he's a prospect but this guy has been dominant against good fighters in sparring. They said he was kicking Juan Lazcano's ass and this was before the Castillo fight

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        • #14
          Originally posted by DLT
          You guys say that it is dumb and he's a prospect but this guy has been dominant against good fighters in sparring. They said he was kicking Juan Lazcano's ass and this was before the Castillo fight
          against good fighters sparring.

          Your talking bout 12 rounds of elite boxing. He's a prospect nothing more.

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          • #15
            yo dont nock the guy so early come on...remember how everyone talked about tyson when he had 12 wins (everyone said he only had strenght and that was it) well true but he had speed also and a lot else to beat boxers for years to come. But i must agree lets the kid get to 20wins before u say something like he would ko pac,this is and when for example (cotto) fans make a fighter seem better then he is for beating nobody's...one thing is for sure..this kid looks like he has a bright future...and lets not forget that Pac has a big challange ahead of him in March and his chin and body will be tested

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Hurlex
              yo dont nock the guy so early come on...remember how everyone talked about tyson when he had 12 wins (everyone said he only had strenght and that was it) well true but he had speed also and a lot else to beat boxers for years to come. But i must agree lets the kid get to 20wins before u say something like he would ko pac,this is and when for example (cotto) fans make a fighter seem better then he is for beating nobody's...one thing is for sure..this kid looks like he has a bright future...and lets not forget that Pac has a big challange ahead of him in March and his chin and body will be tested
              True but this is also 130. We dont know how Pac will look at 130. If this guy has seen both up close and in sparring, you might have to take a look at what he says. He said he got the same feeling watching this kid as he did with a young Mayweather. He bragged on this kid and he went out and delivered. 12 fights, 12 first round KO's is great for anyone. If you yourself watched alot of fighters coming up and you said this guy is one of the best I ever saw and then you saw him beat up current champs in sparring and then KO his first 12 in the first round then you might would think differntly about Pac. Pac would get beat by Lazcano. You guys are missing the point. He said that he has seen both of them spar with the same big 140 pounders and Valero KO's the guys that Pac dominates but cant seriously hurt. He is too big for Pac
              Last edited by DLT; 02-08-2005, 01:17 AM.

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              • #17
                let he prove himself come march 19... if barrera was able to do it, i think manny can...

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by air_keng
                  let he prove himself come march 19... if barrera was able to do it, i think manny can...
                  That still wont change anything as far as this debate goes because he probally thinks that Valero would KO Morales

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by m00ks
                    Its dumb, you have a prospect who is only 12-0 and your saying that he'll knock out a veteran and champ of 2 div (3 with ring). Makes me question Ficher's credability.
                    For real!! No fighter can be that good. I mean, Doug's saying **** like Valero would KO Pacquiao, Barrera AND Morales. Those are ****ing bold statements.

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                    • #20
                      Valero wont be a cake walk for anyone but needs time to grow as a fighter...but i doubt valero will ever fight any f these fighter since he is still pretty new and not known very well...but this guy will be good one day and have a chance to prove himself
                      -And yes...manny has to prove himself come march...aww its gonna be great

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