Comments Thread For: Broner Tried to Help Granados Deal With the Ed Brown Tragedy

[millcitymauler]

nice article.


what's happening in chicago has to stop. it has to start with gun legislation, but it can't stop there. people have to wake up and take a look around. too many people are being killed. this has got to stop. there's going to have to be a movement to stop this, and it has to come out of chicago and out of hte neighborhoods that are having to deal with all of the violence.

Please explain what you mean by that... Illinois, and more specifically, Cook County have the most stringent gun laws in the entire country. There is no way you can "legislate" lawful behavior. Maybe these gang-****ers can just stop shooting at each other for five seconds...That would be a start, no?

[New England]

Please explain what you mean by that... Illinois, and more specifically, Cook County have the most stringent gun laws in the entire country. There is no way you can "legislate" lawful behavior. Maybe these gang-****ers can just stop shooting at each other for five seconds...That would be a start, no?

why do you think they have strict gun laws? because of the gun violence? you think that's a bad idea? you'd rather have everybody carry a gun like the wild west?


there's no other developed country with several major cities that have a murder rate rivaling the third world. america has flint, detroit, cleveland, chicago, and many others. gun legislation works. the first world coutnry with the most guns and the least stringent gun laws has an exponentially higher rate of muder and gun violence. suicide and non murder gun crime, too.


there's just no common sense argument for the reduction of gun legistlation in chicago. the city has an epidemic level problem with gun violence.



also, did you read anything other than what you bolded? be honest, now. i know it takes longer for some to read than others, but it was only a few sentences

[Combat Talk Radio]

I seriously don't understand why this is a story. Did anyone actually read the article? Broner didn't do anything special. Granados was in camp with Broner at the time of brown's murder. Broner gave his condolences. What the **** else was he supposed to do? Kick him out of camp? All of a sudden broner is mother Teresa for feeling sympathy towards a sparring partners close death

Floyd Mayweather witnessed a murder-suicide he might well have been responsible for over FaceTime. I don't recall Broner consoling him. That incident is specifically when something switched off in his head. No more boisterous talk. Trying to focus on living. Telling TMT members to get away from guns and gangs and whatever.

The point is, you expect people to act a certain way, except that many people don't act that way. Thus it's significant when you hear these kinds of stories about guys like Broner.

[Dr Rumack]

The US is incapable of even recognising its most serious problems, never mind addressing them. The politics are too partisan, and the country is too diverse and economically divided. It's problems will only get worse, and young men in Chicago will continue to murder each other.

[Dr Rumack]

Floyd Mayweather witnessed a murder-suicide he might well have been responsible for over FaceTime. I don't recall Broner consoling him.

Broner and Granados were in the same training camp.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Broner and Granados were in the same training camp.

Broner and TBE were rolling together deep at that time. No excuse. Plus you got 50 Cent consoling near immediately.

[New England]

The US is incapable of even recognising its most serious problems, never mind addressing them. The politics are too partisan, and the country is too diverse and economically divided. It's problems will only get worse, and young men in Chicago will continue to murder each other.

for lack of a better term, the US is too "corporate" for gun legislation. defense / arms is a massive, hidden industry. the largest employer on the planet is the US armed forces. second is the military in china. [then comes walmart IIRc .]

people don't even understand what this industry is, or that it's even an industry. it profits from gun violence, a population with splendor and squalor, and a warmongering state with a global impact and a thirst for the natural resources in poor places. every year congressional leaders and their staff are polled to evaluate which "lobbying body" most effectively influences legistlation, and it is the "gun lobby" or the defense industry. for years congress blocked the fed and the CDC from even conducting research into gun violence. if you look closely enough at the statistics you'll find that they're kept locally and by states, and that those states and localities will tell you that they're not entirely accurate or shared with the fed.


as far as i know the first person to give it a name was eisenhower, who called it the "military industrial complex." it's the basis of our political impact on the world. war is huge business, and it pays huge, basically impossible to quantify dividends for states that come out on top. we are the world's superpower because of our military, and private industry benefits from that military influence.

[Kigali]

The usual Thug life BS.

You know all about that.

[Dr Rumack]

for lack of a better term, the US is too "corporate" for gun legislation. defense / arms is a massive, hidden industry. the largest employer on the planet is the US armed forces. second is the military in china. [then comes walmart IIRc .]

people don't even understand what this industry is, or that it's even an industry. it profits from gun violence, a population with splendor and squalor, and a warmongering state with a global impact and a thirst for the natural resources in poor places. every year congressional leaders and their staff are polled to evaluate which "lobbying body" most effectively influences legistlation, and it is the "gun lobby" or the defense industry. for years congress blocked the fed and the CDC from even conducting research into gun violence. if you look closely enough at the statistics you'll find that they're kept locally and by states, and that those states and localities will tell you that they're not entirely accurate or shared with the fed.


as far as i know the first person to give it a name was eisenhower, who called it the "military industrial complex." it's the basis of our political impact on the world. war is huge business, and it pays huge, basically impossible to quantify dividends for states that come out on top. we are the world's superpower because of our military, and private industry benefits from that military influence.

The gun lobby, as opposed to the M-I Complex is what's unique about the US. Britain, Germany, Russia, France and many more have had major domestic weapons manufacturers without anything on the same planet as the US' gun murder rate.

Even if you take the deep poverty of a huge proportion of US population into account, it still doesn't explain the scale of the difference in gun violence. Nor does the drug trade by itself, as drug prohibition exists elsewhere in the developed world too.

Gun restrictions aren't the only answer to these problems, but surely to god they must be part of the answer. The ease with which young men can acquire guns is the single biggest differentiator between the US and comparable societies, so to flat out refuse to consider it as a factor is moronic.

The only thing that will produce gun legislation in the US is if 'dangerous groups' start to carry them however. It took almost no time for the Mulford Act to appear once the Black Panthers began to march carrying loaded rifles.

[Santa_]

I hate anyone who hates broner off top

Haha, for real. Broner is a great character of the sport.