So if skills pay the bills, why is it that?...

[#1Assassin]

where is rigondeaux? i don't see him making millions

skill is the most important part of the equation, but there are other aspects too. to all of which rigo is on the wrong side of the spectrum.

he is a little guy, some small guys make big money but its an uphill battle and far less common. he doesnt speak english, he has a very introverted personality and the country he is from isnt a big market.

on top of that (and partly due to it) he has terrible management who just complain about his downsides and make no effort to pitch his strengths (his skills).

[LockardTheGOAT]

You're over-thinking it.

The word "skills" in that phrase just implies the ability to win fights and be successful; It's completely irrevalent to the point of the adage what style of fighting you use to win with.

[Ray Corso]

"Why dont they go to the more technical type fights"?? Thoughts

Simple! Everyone has different skill sets and not everyone has the same athletic ability!
Your not going to see Joe Frazier moving like Ali!
You won't see LaMotta boxing like Sugar Ray!

You develop your style off your individual abilities!
Some guys run a fast mile others a fast dash, you are who you are!


Ray

[Boxfan83]

what fights are you thinking of?

Well look at it this way, I was on the edge of my seat for kov vs. Ward (a very technical fight imo) just like I was for Vargas vs Salido BUT Vargas vs Salido is the clear winner, why?

[Larry the boss]

im pretty sure brandon rios has had a better career financially than both lara and rigondeaux.

im also pretty sure he suffered more brain damage

[Boxfan83]

I don't see too many well payed brawlers or KO guys.

IDK man I think Brandon rios made like 4million vs Pac and I am sure his trilogy with Alvarado made them both well over 2 million, not to mention what rios made in the Bradley massacre.

[SensFullViolenc]

B/c skills dont necessarily pay the bills. And getting FOTY doesnt equate to most skilled

Rigo is one of the most skilled boxers there is. He is also boring to watch and has to beg to be televised.

Dude like Gatti had very little skills, but a huge following. He was in alot of FOTY.

Me, I can appreciate tactical fights like Kovalev - Ward. But I recognize such fights dont have the blood and guts to be a FOTY.

But the best is when two dudes fight at a very high level -- but still throw down. Im talking like Pac-Morales, or Pac-JMM, or recently fights like Frampy - LSC I.

[SensFullViolenc]

And honestly, some of the best paid boxers get paid for their "charisma" more than their skills OR their blood & guts.

DLH was an excellent, skilled boxer, but was NOT IMO ever top 3 p4p. He was in some good fights, but never close to a p4p.

But he got paid like the best boxer on the planet.


There are no fair rules in the business of boxing. For example, I guarantee you that a mediocre Heavyweight like Michael Grant made WAAY MORE than a top p4p lighter fighter like Finito Lopez, or Too Sharp Johnson.

Sometimes people get paid for ****** reasons like charisma, or flashing bling, or having red hair

[Boxfan83]

B/c skills dont necessarily pay the bills. And getting FOTY doesnt equate to most skilled

Rigo is one of the most skilled boxers there is. He is also boring to watch and has to beg to be televised.

Dude like Gatti had very little skills, but a huge following. He was in alot of FOTY.

Me, I can appreciate tactical fights like Kovalev - Ward. But I recognize such fights dont have the blood and guts to be a FOTY.

But the best is when two dudes fight at a very high level -- but still throw down. Im talking like Pac-Morales, or Pac-JMM, or recently fights like Frampy - LSC I.

Yeah man Pac vs Morales & Morales vs Barrera were fights at the highest level with 2 guys throwing down. But to be honest, although I liked Vargas vs Salido, I dont rate their fight level anywhere near the fights I have mentioned. I guess maybe the powers that be look at how evenly the 2 guys are but their skill level should be taken into consideration too imo at least.

[SensFullViolenc]

Skills alone dont pay the bills -- look at Rigo

Neither does brawling by itself -- Vargas I dont think made a ton of money from his 2 recent FOTY.

Sometimes its good management, sometimes its luck. For example, Money was extremely skilled and had some of his best wins early in his career v. Chico & JLC -- but was still fairly unknown.

But once he beat Gatti - which is really not that big a deal boxing-wise -- he blew up into a mainstream star.

As for brawlers, same thing. Vargas IMO is a much better fighter than Gatti, and has exhibited similar blood and guts in the ring, but he'll never get paid like Gatti. Part of it is Gatti was a white dude, so became a mainstream favorite, part of it is good matchmaking and promotion -- Gatti v. Ward were all great, but they are celebrated beyond all measure of their significance.

It is what it is,