Trinidad: ''He Saved Himself In Not Fighting Me'' / Golovkin

[peakbay]

Joppy > any middleweight GGG has beat

Lol what makes Joppy soo great? Pls explain

[bigdunny1]

Lol what makes Joppy soo great? Pls explain

My point isn't that joppy is some all time great it's that he is better then the bums GGG has fought or beaten for a title. Joppy was a 3X world champ and was an established champ at middleweight for 5 years straight before tito fought him and took his belt. Now go ahead and list the credentials of the middleweights GGG has beaten. Tito win against joppy is greater then any win GGG has right now. If Joppy is a bum then what does that make guys GGG has fought?

[The plunger man]

Trindad failed at middleweight and had a suspect chin.....golovkin would have broken him in half by 6 rounds

[bluepete]

Joppy > any middleweight GGG has beat

Don't talk daft. If Joppy had been one of Golovkins opponents you'd have been saying "who'd he beat other than an ancient Duran". Trinidad didn't do anything at middle.

[peakbay]

My point isn't that joppy is some all time great it's that he is better then the bums GGG has fought or beaten for a title. Joppy was a 3X world champ and was an established champ at middleweight for 5 years straight before tito fought him and took his belt. Now go ahead and list the credentials of the middleweights GGG has beaten. Tito win against joppy is greater then any win GGG has right now. If Joppy is a bum then what does that make guys GGG has fought?

Yeah real impressive who called him a bum (I don't want to put joppy down) but his title run (or middleweight at the time) wasn't exactly murders row I would put him on par with gggs opposition. If not what win puts him above ggg opposition

[bluepete]

Who knows how many times GGG would of been knocked out forget just knocked down had he faced anything other then C and D class fighters. GGGs holes in his game and style of fighting no fighter like that EVER beat tito. If you were easy to hit with no defense you were knocked out by Tito it's that simple. Joppy is a better win on tito resume then any fighter GGG has faced. But got idiot GGG fanboys laughing at the win. Have you looked at the resume of the guys GGG has beaten. If Joppy is a bum then what are GGG opponemts. SMH

The point isn't how Joppy compares to the guys GGG has beaten, it's how he compares to GGG. Joppy want a puncher, was short with a short reach and only had an ancient Duran to speak of as a recognizable win. Trinidad was never a good middle, and Roy Jones who was twice stopped by then stood right in front of him because his power didn't really carry up. He was a great welter, but not the kind of strength level to fight a durable puncher and bigger man like Golovkin.

[bigdunny1]

Don't talk daft. If Joppy had been one of Golovkins opponents you'd have been saying "who'd he beat other than an ancient Duran". Trinidad didn't do anything at middle.

Then name the wins GGG has that are more impressive still waiting on your answer. So I can rip apart their resumes. The fact that tito jumped up to 160 and beat a guy like joppy out the gate and that GGG at 35 hasn't got a quality win yet and refuses to move up to 168 for better fights just shows you how garbage GGG career has been. And if tito ain't do nothing at middleweight despite the fact he won a more respectable belt in the ring then GGG has and actually tried to fight the best fighter in the world and moved up to do it then what does that say about GGG who has one excuse after another for why he won't take a risk to get better fights? And make no mistake had GGG fought a prime bhop (maybe the greatest middleweight ever) and prime Wink (hall of famer) he would have 2L's on his record. You reward cowards who fight bums like Wade over greats who fought and beat better caliber fighters.

[bluepete]

Are you serious an old tito 3 years after retirement coming back fat and out of shape at 170 for one last payday? We talking prime tito comparing a washed up shell of tito anyone beats.

Prime Tito was a welterweight. We know what happens to good welterweights against Golovkin. His best win at middle was 5foot 7 non puncher Joppy. Who's best win was a very old Duran. His got no form to show at middle except being stopped by Hopkins. Whether the loaded gloves are a reason for this is open to debated. But all of this "he'd smash Golovkin in three rounds" garbage, when he never smashed anyone remotely like him in size or power or chin is laughable.

[Kigali]

The number of punches GGG eats every fight against weak competition is polished? You see GGG face after fighting a welterweight mismatch and you call that polished? No his defense sucks and he gets hit by anything he has just fought inferior competition so he gets away with walking head first into punches. Against elite fighters and ones with all time great power like tito he is looking up at the stars. I'll say it again no one dimensional brawler has ever beaten tito. Only guys he lost to refuse to fight him like that gave him movement and out boxed him were all time great technicans with skillset and defense GGG don't have.

I agree with you.

Rosado(a guy that couldn't touch Angulo)had Golovkin's face all busted up.

Even Adama was catching him with lead rights.

Wade is slow as a pack mule....he landed a FOUR punch combo on GGG.

[bluepete]

Then name the wins GGG has that are more impressive still waiting on your answer. So I can rip apart their resumes. The fact that tito jumped up to 160 and beat a guy like joppy out the gate and that GGG at 35 hasn't got a quality win yet and refuses to move up to 168 for better fights just shows you how garbage GGG career has been. And if tito ain't do nothing at middleweight despite the fact he won a more respectable belt in the ring then GGG has and actually tried to fight the best fighter in the world and moved up to do it then what does that say about GGG who has one excuse after another for why he won't take a risk to get better fights? And make no mistake had GGG fought a prime bhop (maybe the greatest middleweight ever) and prime Wink (hall of famer) he would have 2L's on his record. You reward cowards who fight bums like Wade over greats who fought and beat better caliber fighters.

Firstly this is supposed to be a fantasy fight between Tito and GGG. Not Joppy and GGG opponents. But are you seriously going to tell me if Golovkin had fought Joppy you wouldn't be pointing out how thin Joppys resume was? Here's the thing. A great Welter, whos only good win is over Joppy shouldn't be expected to knock out a powerful middle with a good chin. There's no reason to think he would because neither guy has anything on there record to suggest it. Golovkin would stop Tito and you'd be *****ing that he fought a smaller man. Calling pro fighters cowards is why your a waste man. Especially fighters who come in and fight. No fighter is a coward. And Tito didn't have to physicality to beat Golovkin.