Comments Thread For: Lomachenko to Fight Jason Sosa on April 8 Near Washington, D.C.

[deanrw]

Yea but there was no other fights that could've been made? And he wanted a bigger share of the pot. Lomachenko was getting $850k when it was offered. A year later he got a million and Walters got the same as he was offered the previous year. Before then Walters wasn't one to complain about the money. I think he saw how much Lomachenko was getting and wanted a fairer share. The Corrales fight also broke down over money and so did the Salido fight and the Rigo fight. I don't think guys are pricing themselves out. They see how much he's getting paid and wondering why they can't get more when their ratings and attendance are comparable. And with the case of Salido his ratings and attendance is better.

We can only assume what went on there after Walters turned down Loma the first go around. Bob may have been pissed and put him on the shelf for a bit.

Salido turning it down this time was not over money. He damanded a certain amount, Bob said sure, then Salido suddenly changed his mind and wanted to fight Vargas again.

[boxingitis]

Ummmmm Tank just fought also.

O yeah... but according to Mayweather he aint ready for Loma.

[GMAN SUPREME]

i dig sosa, but this is not a unification fight cuz sosa not the WBA champ corrales is. the WBA regular
and interim and whatever are NOT world champion belts.

you guys get some basic stuff wrong constantly.

i really like the amount of content and the good writing, but hire a fact
checker.

the fact is that the wba regular belt which sosa has officially counts as a world title doesn't matter what you or any other fans say those are wba rules. you need to check your facts

[My Low Place]

I have no complaints if it's one of three fights this year. If it's one of just two, then I would've preferred someone better

Sosa applies pressure well and could do a decent job of aping Salido's strategy against Loma

if he takes on salido's approach we will see if loma has really improved or not...i dont by the win over an inactive walters taht trained for two months

[My Low Place]

What's the point of a rematch with GRJ? Loma clearly won the first time and nobody really buys GRJ's excuse that he "over trained". Loma would probably beat him worse at this point.

when i read wat he wrote all i could think was "fanboy" then i seen more of his comments and had the same thought.

[Motorcity Cobra]

We can only assume what went on there after Walters turned down Loma the first go around. Bob may have been pissed and put him on the shelf for a bit.

Salido turning it down this time was not over money. He damanded a certain amount, Bob said sure, then Salido suddenly changed his mind and wanted to fight Vargas again.

That's not true. Even Klimas admitted they offered Salido less than they offered Martinez.

@KnuckleheadSean @steveucnlive @danrafaelespn @latimespugmire @timmyvann Talking is cheap... Why dont you sign contract, Lomachenko is ready

— Egis Klimas (@KlimasBoxing) August 5, 2016

Change Lomachenko contract to Salido name and he will sign today !! No fear talk is cheap and so is the offer https://t.co/uF4cWyGhni

— Sean Gibbons (@KnuckleheadSean) August 5, 2016

@KnuckleheadSean @steveucnlive @danrafaelespn @latimespugmire @timmyvann Salido coming out of loss he should be happy for chance

— Egis Klimas (@KlimasBoxing) August 5, 2016

Salido was posturing bringing up the Vargas fight. He was trying to get Top Rank to come up off some more money. His manager explained to Lomachenko's manager why Salido deserves more money. It's common sense

@KnuckleheadSean @steveucnlive Loma came to DR and told Salido: "You win this title, I will win my and when we fight" Loma won his!

— Egis Klimas (@KlimasBoxing) August 8, 2016

@KlimasBoxing @danrafaelespn again you miss the point Salido does numbers with or without the belt . He has something called fans !!

— Sean Gibbons (@KnuckleheadSean) August 8, 2016

[deanrw]

That's not true. Even Klimas admitted they offered Salido less than they offered Martinez.










Salido was posturing bringing up the Vargas fight. He was trying to get Top Rank to come up off some more money. His manager explained to Lomachenko's manager why Salido deserves more money. It's common sense

Well that was back in August. There were more recent negotiations (January) where Bob did say yes to Salido's financial demand and then Salido then backed out

“Orlando Salido chickened out,” Arum told ******.com on Tuesday. “It’s the only way to say it. He asked for crazy money. We agreed to the crazy money. And then he says, ‘No.’ He’d just as soon not take the fight. Why? Because he knows he can’t beat (Lomachenko). It was a fluke the first time. So, there’s no other way to paint it...”

Salido’s manager, Sean Gibbons, refutes Arum’s characterization by calling it “ludicrous” to even mention Salido’s name in the same sentence as the word “chicken.” According to Gibbons, it was merely a decision to give fans the kind of fights they want to see, and they’d much rather see Salido rematch Francisco Vargas than take on Lomachenko again.

[RetroSpeed05]

That's not true. Even Klimas admitted they offered Salido less than they offered Martinez.

@KnuckleheadSean @steveucnlive @danrafaelespn @latimespugmire @timmyvann Talking is cheap... Why dont you sign contract, Lomachenko is ready

— Egis Klimas (@KlimasBoxing) August 5, 2016

Change Lomachenko contract to Salido name and he will sign today !! No fear talk is cheap and so is the offer https://t.co/uF4cWyGhni

— Sean Gibbons (@KnuckleheadSean) August 5, 2016

@KnuckleheadSean @steveucnlive @danrafaelespn @latimespugmire @timmyvann Salido coming out of loss he should be happy for chance

— Egis Klimas (@KlimasBoxing) August 5, 2016

Salido was posturing bringing up the Vargas fight. He was trying to get Top Rank to come up off some more money. His manager explained to Lomachenko's manager why Salido deserves more money. It's common sense

@KnuckleheadSean @steveucnlive Loma came to DR and told Salido: "You win this title, I will win my and when we fight" Loma won his!

— Egis Klimas (@KlimasBoxing) August 8, 2016

@KlimasBoxing @danrafaelespn again you miss the point Salido does numbers with or without the belt . He has something called fans !!

— Sean Gibbons (@KnuckleheadSean) August 8, 2016

Thats when he was asking for a lot of money but a recent interview Kilmas said top rank gave him that much and he still said no. Salido and his promoters recent statements seem they are not keen to fighting Loma and wanted Vargas.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Well that was back in August. There were more recent negotiations (January) where Bob did say yes to Salido's financial demand and then Salido then backed out

“Orlando Salido chickened out,” Arum told ******.com on Tuesday. “It’s the only way to say it. He asked for crazy money. We agreed to the crazy money. And then he says, ‘No.’ He’d just as soon not take the fight. Why? Because he knows he can’t beat (Lomachenko). It was a fluke the first time. So, there’s no other way to paint it...”

Salido’s manager, Sean Gibbons, refutes Arum’s characterization by calling it “ludicrous” to even mention Salido’s name in the same sentence as the word “chicken.” According to Gibbons, it was merely a decision to give fans the kind of fights they want to see, and they’d much rather see Salido rematch Francisco Vargas than take on Lomachenko again.

That was after he got the better offer for Salido-Vargas II. The fight was already promised. That's why he blew up after Vargas lost this weekend. Saying they blew the fight (meaning Salido-Vargas II).

This was in December when the talks with Lomachenko started again.

Juan Carlos Torres, director of Zanfer, revealed that Salido has at least three safe options in the company's plans, since in addition to the probable fight with Vasyl Lomachenko, they handle one more option in Mexican soil and another one in the United States.

"The advantage of the work that Gibbons has done is that today Salido can fight in Mexico in the month of March and then face the winner of the fight of Francisco 'Bandido' Vargas and Miguel 'Alacrán' Berchelt, who would also represent an important sum for He or go in that fight with Lomachenko, "said Torres.

The Zanfer executive commented that if they do not reach an agreement for Lomachenko, then the plan would be to fight the 'Siri' in March in Mexico and wait for the winner of Vargas and Berchelt next summer, because the first one already won, Tied with the second and has not fought with the third.

http://www.espn.com.mx/boxeo/nota/_/id/2900568/salido-tiene-mas-opciones-que-lomachenko-zanfer

[AKAcronym]

if he takes on salido's approach we will see if loma has really improved or not...i dont by the win over an inactive walters taht trained for two months

Loma has always and will always be on a different level than Walters. But for now, tell me what would have been different if Walters had fought Loma when he was first offered the fight but chose to decline?