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  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    what about the fights not involving Floyd?

    In another thread you posted you don't understand why Manny stopped KPTFO when he got saved. Maybe it was because he had to start testing and not because he got saved, seeing as how, as you pointed out, Foreman got saved and still KPTFO.
    He was about to knock out Marquez at their last fight remember till the KO happened, that was the final draw of the KO artist Manny.

    Manny can still KO opponents if he want to, but he doesn't press it anymore. Manny admitted in the rios fight that he could have KO'ed in when round five approached but he didn't and just ler rios be, picking his shots, not really pressing the action and ko him.

    Also, Manny started using VADA since it's creation. I think he used it.....five times? in big fights and tune up fights, TB, rios, Mosley. Never tested positive.

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    • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
      Thats just a BS lame excuse that was thrown around here. No one that thinks straight actually falls for that excuse.
      So you think it's fair manny is only given 40 million and tested 24/7 through out the whole camp?

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      • Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
        He was about to knock out Marquez at their last fight remember till the KO happened, that was the final draw of the KO artist Manny.

        Manny can still KO opponents if he want to, but he doesn't press it anymore. Manny admitted in the rios fight that he could have KO'ed in when round five approached but he didn't and just ler rios be, picking his shots, not really pressing the action and ko him.

        Also, Manny started using VADA since it's creation. I think he used it.....five times? in big fights and tune up fights, TB, rios, Mosley. Never tested positive.
        While I understand why you believe Manny, perhaps there is another reason. You sure he started from the beginning?

        http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/...go-247-testing

        Now, for the first time, Pacquiao is not just saying he would agree to be randomly tested, he is being tested as he and Brandon Rios prepare for their 12-round welterweight showdown on Saturday night at the CotaiArena at the Venetian Macao in Macau, China. Pacquiao and Rios are undergoing random testing by the Las Vegas-based Voluntary Anti-Doping Association, an organization that has been widely used for major fights in the United States.
        It seems you clearly are mistaken.

        Do you know why he wasn't doing VADA or USADA in the fights from 2009-13 when he fought Rios?

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          While I understand why you believe Manny, perhaps there is another reason. You sure he started from the beginning?

          http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/...go-247-testing



          It seems you clearly are mistaken. So can what about the fights from 08-13?
          My mistake. In the Hatton fight he used the standard 25 day drug testing. And the cotto fight he was with the NSAC drug testing, Idk somewhere that, correct me if I'm wrong. And 2010 where he didn't get any ko's Idk.

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          • Wilder is the unluckiest dude in boxing.

            In a perfect world they just scrap this date and make a fight with a real contender.

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            • Unless he can get any of the top fighters next please put him in the ring with Jarrell Miller. That could be fun.

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              • Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
                My mistake. In the Hatton fight he used the standard 25 day drug testing. And the cotto fight he was with the NSAC drug testing, Idk somewhere that, correct me if I'm wrong. And 2010 where he didn't get any ko's Idk.
                Ok. So now we know Manny didn't use any testing at all.

                You seem very sure that Floyd chose USADA because they could be bribed, yet aren't sure about why Manny didn't test.

                Would it be fair to apply similar logic that you employed and say Manny didn't test because he could get caught cheating?

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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  Ok. So now we know Manny didn't use any testing at all.

                  You seem very sure that Floyd chose USADA because they could be bribed, yet aren't sure about why Manny didn't test.

                  Would it be fair to apply similar logic that you employed and say Manny didn't test because he could get caught cheating?
                  Floyd doesn't need drug testing to anybody elses not named Manny. He didn't request a 1 week cut off to Shane Mosley a known doper like he did to Manny, that alone is questionable.

                  Both are su****ious, Manny didn't need to decline the drug testing but he did, and Floyd with a shady organization and some other controversies such as the IV.

                  But if this is a tug of war on who is probably the likely doper or not, I would lean in to Mayweather, but Pacquiao would not be innocent.

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                    • Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
                      Floyd doesn't need drug testing to anybody elses not named Manny. He didn't request a 1 week cut off to Shane Mosley a known doper like he did to Manny, that alone is questionable.

                      Both are su****ious, Manny didn't need to decline the drug testing but he did, and Floyd with a shady organization and some other controversies such as the IV.

                      But if this is a tug of war on who is probably the likely doper or not, I would lean in to Mayweather, but Pacquiao would not be innocent.
                      Well he requested the cutoff to get Manny to fight because Manny asked for a longer cutoff period. It's crazy that you would find fault with a compromise offer to get the fight made. There was no cutoff for the Shane fight.

                      Ok so using a testing agency makes you more su****ious than not using one at all. Ok, just wanted to understand your post better.

                      As for this thread, I just hope Wilder can find someone to fight that isn't dirty.

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