Comments Thread For: Black Hitler - Boxing And The Anti-PBC Effect

[megas30]

This information confirms what I've been saying since PBC launched. GB & HBO have the media in their back pocket and all the anti-PBC stuff has been a coordinated campaign to brainwash boxing fans.

Truth be told, some people just have a problem with black people thriving or perceived to be thriving. It is what it is. They can say all they want, but their brush already paint a clear picture.

[Kigali]

Those "valid grievances" have mostly been a bunch of bull****, when most of the things that these "journalists" criticize Haymon/PBC for is being done in more egregious ways by Top Rank and GoldenBoy.

Examples:
Top Rank; Making Crawford v. Postol a PPV, or putting on Crawford v Molin. Pretty much every card Tor Rank has put on in the last year or so with the exception of Loma/Walters wasn't even worth watching. I'm still amazed that people find some way to justify the PacMan roadshow that has been going on since before the Mayweather fight.

*To Top Rank's credit it has some amazing prospects that we need to see more of.

And GoldenBoy is simply a joke of an organization at this point. They continue to put on these spectacles w/ Canelo fighting anybody he can to make a buck (Khan, Smith, Chavez) while avoiding competition. While the rest of the company is completely non-existent. Those FS1 cards were completely garbage (and I watched a few just to support boxing). And people are acting like a Lemieux/Stevens fight is worth top billing.

I don't see how anyone can not objectively see that GBP is a joke.

Yes the PBC has had its issues with competitive fights during their rollout stage, but if we look at the last six months and then look six months ahead, it's the only one of the 3 big players that is giving us boxing that is worth talking about.

Where is the praise from the journalists? Those "valid grievances" aren't valid anymore. (Not that they ever really were)

[The Big Dunn]

Arum is a lawyer...he knows that lawsuit is a turkey.

Oscar should have stepped off when Arum did.

This is the best post I've ever seen from you and something I and others probably should have thought about more. Arum did seem to go from "hellbent on destruction" to taking making a great deal, making peace with PBC, and moving forward.

[miked85]

Has PBC been a huge success in its early run? No, heck no, they have kinks they have to work out, and we shall see if they find their way, any major company starting out, any business in inception, I like to give them breathing room as they find their way

However, I do believe, in this small tight knit boxing community and media press, there has been a smear campaign to completely undermine and thrash haymon at all costs

Idk why, is it because there's bitterness on the split with hbo

Is it because he is a recluse that doesn't pander to media and do interviews (which all in all, is that a crime? Does he owe us a interview)

Is it because he's black, sounds simplified I know, but look at black Wall Street, Tulsa massacre, MOVE bombing in philly, we've seen drama when black folks try to mobilize in the corporate or social world for advancement, maybe just maybe, people don't like see Al Haymon in power

Whatever the case is, Steve Jobs failed numerous times before he got it right, but we gave him chances, why are we up and down Haymon and PBC throat, for free or low cost products

There is a sickening division in boxing that's racially based

[Butch.McRae]

This is the best post I've ever seen from you and something I and others probably should have thought about more. Arum did seem to go from "hellbent on destruction" to taking making a great deal, making peace with PBC, and moving forward.

Yes b/c the guy was a federal prosecutor, he knows the litigation game better than the average cookie.

[rongizzle]

Fk Golden Girls and Top Stank. They tried to freeze Al Haymon out by refusing to co promote fights with Al Haymon's fighters. HBO has Bob Arum and Oscar De La Hoya by the nuts. HBO is mad because Al Haymon talked Floyd into leaving HBO for Showtime. Calling Haymon "Black Hitler" is ignorant.

[killakali]

Arum is a lawyer...he knows that lawsuit is a turkey.

Oscar should have stepped off when Arum did.

actually what is ironic is Arum's lawsuit opened the door for Golden Boy's big ESPN deal. As part of the agreement for Arum to drop the lawsuit, Haymon agreed to give us his exclusivity contracts at PBC networks. Without Haymon giving that up, Oscar couldn't have brokered this deal.

[Butch.McRae]

actually what is ironic is Arum's lawsuit opened the door for Golden Boy's big ESPN deal. As part of the agreement for Arum to drop the lawsuit, Haymon agreed to give us his exclusivity contracts at PBC networks. Without Haymon giving that up, Oscar couldn't have brokered this deal.

That's what Arum was looking for the whole time. He wouldn't have let the case get as far as Oscar has. Discovery and depositions is something a plaintiffs-side wants when its sure of its allegations. Otherwise it can be really detrimental when they start pulling messages (like in this case) and going through records. In the Top Rank suit, Bob just wanted to get Haymon to the table with more leverage, and he did (and they've made some money together since).

[Boxing Goat]

People popping off and just comparing people like Haymon and Trump to Hitler is an extreme way to get a point across. In no way do these people or almost nobody in history even come close to what kind of monster Hitler was. It's an insult to more than just the accused by making such irresponsible comparisons and it should cease immediately. Let the man die and be forgotten as that's the worst punishment he could ever have. As his legacy lives on and him being remembered so easily it allows him to win in some fashion and nobody like that deserves to win.

[Bronx2245]

"Somehow lost in the media scrutiny was the fact that HBO’s schedule took a cliff dive in 2016, both in terms of quantity and quality. Too much attention was being paid to the PBC schedule running thin in its number of shows, along with glaring cuts in main event significance and production value.."

"Gone are the days, however, where investigative reporters such as Thomas Hauser would dig in and rightly criticize the self-proclaimed Network of Champions for failing to satisfy the appetite of its boxing subscribers. Those days ended once he was reportedly brought on as a “boxing consultant” although no evidence exists that any more has been done than the network simply purchasing his silence, his efforts in recent years instead shifted towards the wrongdoings of anything Haymon-related."

This is so spot on! Hauser and Lampley are puppets, whose jobs are to "kill" the PBC and anyone associated with Haymon (Mayweather)! Notice how Hauser (nor Lampley) never did any investigative journalism when Roach said Ariza was giving Pacquiao "suspect" shakes!