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  • nycsmooth
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    #11
    Jr will be a dead man walking trying to get to 164 1/2nd & from what I read about the contract he's liable for $1 million every pound over ...this is going to be a blowout 4 Fraudverez... unless he just lets Jr coast..

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    • lizard_man
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      #12
      Originally posted by GaryMSchneider
      As the fires for Golovkin Vs Alvarez continue to get fanned the alphabets who recognize the boxers as champions which afford them the popularity to secure mega pay per view paydays have stepped in to demand mandatory matches halting this fight at least until May of 2017. Gennady holds the IBF, WBA, IBO and WBC titles while Billy Joe Saunders holds the last hold card, the WBO belt. The World Boxing Association has mandated that Golovkin must unify with interim champion Daniel Jacobs. HBO is interested in promoting the fight as early as December 10 on its pay per view arm. In ironic juxtaposition the World Boxing Organization has decreed that Canelo fight mandatory contender Demetrius Andrade who was the former bet holder who had been stripped due to inactivity but now fighting and back in good graces. Both these fighters make fantastic warm up possibilities leading to final obstacle in a showdown next year. While some early observers have speculated that Canelo might again vacate his belt rather than take on the formidable challenger who stands 6’1” and owns a perfect resume of 23-0, 16 KO’s the press has learned this week that Alvarez suffered a fractured thumb in his title winning effort and would be out of action for the remainder of the year that has bared witness to several top flight boxers with broken hands.

      Making matters worse among the fanfare De La Hoya has issued the first shot claiming his fighter is the “A” side to the future promotion and telling Golovkin’s trainer Abel Sanchez “if you’re not happy with the offer than good luck…..” Problem here for seriously in denial Oscar is that there is no “B” side to a fight of this magnitude. Somehow forgetting that “GGG” has the belt collection, a 23 knockout streak in place and has been the most avoided middleweight since Ezzard Charles and Charley Burly staked the division sixty years ago but for different reasons. Golovkin has simply disseminated all challengers without ever truly being tested himself. Some overzealous haters have rationalized that Golovkin was “exposed” in his bout with Brook. This line of reasoning positively irritates me as the challenger was pounded into submission in less than five rounds and escorted to hospital with fractured skull. With possibly 100 million dollars or more to be generated by this fight, why the hell should “GGG” settle for 10% of the gross plus some profit margining from PPV sales after they reach certain goal markers.

      Fact is, nowhere on earth can Canelo command the kind of payday he gets for a Golovkin match. Oscar knows it but he is counting on the wisdom of Sanchez to simply discard the offer and walk away. This mega fight is history in the making but has been stalled and delayed two years already. As we learned with Floyd and Manny every fight has an expiration date. De La Hoya has constantly told the press his man will fight “GGG” but then presents unlikely time frames or throws unreasonable stumbling blocks in path of getting the promotion off the ground. It’s high time Oscar get past the “panty hose” scandal and grow some stones he was famous for in his hall of fame career where he ducked no one.

      Interestingly Bernard Hopkins who is part of Oscar’s Golden Boy Promotions has been quoted as telling Jim Lampley on the Fight Game that he believed the fight would come off by popular demand, yet recently interviewed has called on Golovkin to move up and challenge the super middleweight and light heavyweight division. This in itself is a hoot for lack of better word. The history of Champions and top contenders avoiding Gennady at all costs has been well documented. If middleweights fear to enter the ring and ply their chosen trade with him why must he vacate just to make their lives easier? Where the hell is their courage? While “Bhop” has gone up in weight to take on bigger challenges and win the hearts and minds of the boxing fraternity no one ever asked him to do so. His resume has become hall of fame ready as soon as he officially retires and allows the five year interim to elapse. Short term memories aside no one ever dared ask Marvin Hagler to travel north 15 pounds to tangle with light heavyweight Michael Spinks simply because he was head and shoulders above his competition.

      Sanchez no fool to promoting a fight or ignorant of popular demand asked Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions to issue a counter offer of a 60/40 split in Alvarez’s favor. The request was more than just reasonable, it was practical. De La Hoya and Golden Boy are running out of ideas to keep Gennady at bay and all the waiting in hopes that someone else would take “GGG” down first have failed.

      Oscar is doing his client a severe disservice by his continual refusal to logistically get both sides together. A guaranteed fight of the year already warrants a rematch clause which would make both fighters even richer. Sadly a few boxers have come forward expressing an opinion that Golovkin should move up yet don’t ask some demand of Canelo. Hell, he owned a middleweight title it’s not like anyone is asking him to jump through hoops of fire blindfolded!

      Canelo enters ring at 170 plus so all the banter that he has been a 154 pound fighter is nothing but a spit bucket in disguise. We all know Canelo has proven himself to be a warrior over a glorious eleven year career but De La Hoya is sending out the wrong message and fans are beginning to question that status and re-examine that resume. Oscar has been around the block before in many a mega fight and knows that in a fight of this magnitude there are no losers.
      i stopped reading after this

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #13
        Originally posted by GaryMSchneider
        As the fires for Golovkin Vs Alvarez continue to get fanned the alphabets who recognize the boxers as champions which afford them the popularity to secure mega pay per view paydays have stepped in to demand mandatory matches halting this fight at least until May of 2017. Gennady holds the IBF, WBA, IBO and WBC titles while Billy Joe Saunders holds the last hold card, the WBO belt. The World Boxing Association has mandated that Golovkin must unify with interim champion Daniel Jacobs. HBO is interested in promoting the fight as early as December 10 on its pay per view arm. In ironic juxtaposition the World Boxing Organization has decreed that Canelo fight mandatory contender Demetrius Andrade who was the former bet holder who had been stripped due to inactivity but now fighting and back in good graces. Both these fighters make fantastic warm up possibilities leading to final obstacle in a showdown next year. While some early observers have speculated that Canelo might again vacate his belt rather than take on the formidable challenger who stands 6’1” and owns a perfect resume of 23-0, 16 KO’s the press has learned this week that Alvarez suffered a fractured thumb in his title winning effort and would be out of action for the remainder of the year that has bared witness to several top flight boxers with broken hands.

        Making matters worse among the fanfare De La Hoya has issued the first shot claiming his fighter is the “A” side to the future promotion and telling Golovkin’s trainer Abel Sanchez “if you’re not happy with the offer than good luck…..” Problem here for seriously in denial Oscar is that there is no “B” side to a fight of this magnitude. Somehow forgetting that “GGG” has the belt collection, a 23 knockout streak in place and has been the most avoided middleweight since Ezzard Charles and Charley Burly staked the division sixty years ago but for different reasons. Golovkin has simply disseminated all challengers without ever truly being tested himself. Some overzealous haters have rationalized that Golovkin was “exposed” in his bout with Brook. This line of reasoning positively irritates me as the challenger was pounded into submission in less than five rounds and escorted to hospital with fractured skull. With possibly 100 million dollars or more to be generated by this fight, why the hell should “GGG” settle for 10% of the gross plus some profit margining from PPV sales after they reach certain goal markers.

        Fact is, nowhere on earth can Canelo command the kind of payday he gets for a Golovkin match. Oscar knows it but he is counting on the wisdom of Sanchez to simply discard the offer and walk away. This mega fight is history in the making but has been stalled and delayed two years already. As we learned with Floyd and Manny every fight has an expiration date. De La Hoya has constantly told the press his man will fight “GGG” but then presents unlikely time frames or throws unreasonable stumbling blocks in path of getting the promotion off the ground. It’s high time Oscar get past the “panty hose” scandal and grow some stones he was famous for in his hall of fame career where he ducked no one.

        Interestingly Bernard Hopkins who is part of Oscar’s Golden Boy Promotions has been quoted as telling Jim Lampley on the Fight Game that he believed the fight would come off by popular demand, yet recently interviewed has called on Golovkin to move up and challenge the super middleweight and light heavyweight division. This in itself is a hoot for lack of better word. The history of Champions and top contenders avoiding Gennady at all costs has been well documented. If middleweights fear to enter the ring and ply their chosen trade with him why must he vacate just to make their lives easier? Where the hell is their courage? While “Bhop” has gone up in weight to take on bigger challenges and win the hearts and minds of the boxing fraternity no one ever asked him to do so. His resume has become hall of fame ready as soon as he officially retires and allows the five year interim to elapse. Short term memories aside no one ever dared ask Marvin Hagler to travel north 15 pounds to tangle with light heavyweight Michael Spinks simply because he was head and shoulders above his competition.

        Sanchez no fool to promoting a fight or ignorant of popular demand asked Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions to issue a counter offer of a 60/40 split in Alvarez’s favor. The request was more than just reasonable, it was practical. De La Hoya and Golden Boy are running out of ideas to keep Gennady at bay and all the waiting in hopes that someone else would take “GGG” down first have failed.

        Oscar is doing his client a severe disservice by his continual refusal to logistically get both sides together. A guaranteed fight of the year already warrants a rematch clause which would make both fighters even richer. Sadly a few boxers have come forward expressing an opinion that Golovkin should move up yet don’t ask some demand of Canelo. Hell, he owned a middleweight title it’s not like anyone is asking him to jump through hoops of fire blindfolded!

        Canelo enters ring at 170 plus so all the banter that he has been a 154 pound fighter is nothing but a spit bucket in disguise. We all know Canelo has proven himself to be a warrior over a glorious eleven year career but De La Hoya is sending out the wrong message and fans are beginning to question that status and re-examine that resume. Oscar has been around the block before in many a mega fight and knows that in a fight of this magnitude there are no losers.

        ..... hey, has triple-duck signed the contract yet, or is he still ducking Canelo?

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        • Travycat
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          #14
          Doesn't Chavez have Memo doing his "nutrition" and strength conditioning? I think he'll make weight easily. I'm really looking forward to this fight. Sergio was a great big fight experience for Chavez. This will be another.

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          • texasboi15
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            #15
            Originally posted by Catrin
            Can you imagine if JR. blew up $5 mill on purse and showed at 169.5 and beat the pulp out of canelo!
            BWaHaahaHA!!

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            • texasboi15
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              #16
              Originally posted by 123tommy
              JR's got a 6 to 8 mil guarantee plus PPV upside.He's finished if he loses.Give back 3 mil and and come in at 167.5 then go to work
              Realest shit in this thread

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              • Catrin
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                #17
                Originally posted by texasboi15
                BWaHaahaHA!!
                WTF! Get that pito out your mouth i dont seem to understand you...

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