Comments Thread For: Horn: Pacquiao Has Been Knocked Out Before, I Have The Power!

[Mighty_Windir]

Pay attention to the whole conversation. The other guy made an absolute, generalized statement that no washed up fighter had stopped someone in their prime. I gave one specific example. He just did it again about knockdowns and I had to educate him again. Yes, even I believe Floyd should have had that called a knockdown because his glove touched and it was off a clear punch. But it wasn't called - why? Because they favored the A Side.

Don't speak in absolutes when you can't back it up.

God forbid the referee miss a glove on the canvas, because that has never happened before in a boxing fight right.

One knockdown makes one round 10-8. Explain then how one judge gave Manny 8 rounds. I'll do it for you - the judges always favored Manny against Marquez. Dinamita had no choice but to knock the man out in the 4th otherwise he'd have gotten robbed again like he did in the 3rd.

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The only score that was even close to accurate that night was Jerry Roth. In fact, Jerry Roth is one of only two judges whose scores I can almost always trust as matching what happened in the fight. The only fight I can recall him being questionable was De La Hoya/Trinidad.

Dave Moretti always scores for "The A Side" unless the A Side doesn't show up. Period. Even I can't call MayPac a 10-2 blowout nor can I say Pacquiao/Vargas was near a draw. His score on Pacquiao/Marquez 2 was a joke.

Now I know for sure you're talking out of your ass, quoting Stephen A. Smith for boxing knowledge, the same Stephen A. Smith who was arguing with Bradley all night in the Pacman-Vargas fight, specially his memorable bit at the end of the second round when he tried to downplay the knockdown and Bradley countered saying he got stunned because unlike Stephen, Bradley's been in the ring and knows a thing or two about boxing more than him. That commentary has to be the worst I've ever heard ever heard. Don't take my word for it though:

https://champions.co/p/grading-stephen-a-smiths-awkward-commentating-debut-pacquiao-vs-vargas/4141386

http://checkhookboxin g.com/index.ph...o-fight.89942/

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=727697

https://www.boxin gforum24.com/threa...entary.576030/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comm...wkward_boxing/

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[Combat Talk Radio]

God forbid the referee miss a glove on the canvas, because that has never happened before in a boxing fight right.

The point is, don't speak in absolutes saying knockdowns always get counted. They don't. Done with that.

Now I know for sure you're talking out of your ass, quoting Stephen A. Smith for boxing knowledge, the same Stephen A. Smith who was arguing with Bradley all night in the Pacman-Vargas fight, specially his memorable bit at the end of the second round when he tried to downplay the knockdown and Bradley countered saying he got stunned because unlike Stephen, Bradley's been in the ring and knows a thing or two about boxing more than him. That commentary has to be the worst I've ever heard ever heard. Don't take my word for it though:

Maybe if you'd actually clicked the video, you'd see that the quote is Marquez, not Stephen A.

Done with you.

[Mighty_Windir]

The point is, don't speak in absolutes saying knockdowns always get counted. They don't. Done with that.

Spare me your universal knowledge about knockdowns. You clearly knew I was talking about knockdowns in scorecards. Tons of times gloves touch the canvas, but referees don't always see it, just like they don't always see a headbutt opening a cut and they count it as a punch or vice versa, common sense

Maybe if you'd actually clicked the video, you'd see that the quote is Marquez, not Stephen A.

Done with you.

Well according to Marquez, he is undefeated against Pacquiao:

http://www.ibtimes.com.au/boxing-news-2015-juan-manuel-marquez-believes-hes-4-0-against-manny-pacquiao-1418667

He must be right about that one also huh?