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  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    You got 2 top guys from WADA? WHO??? Who did you get? You need to stop lying. All you do is lie.
    So I see that you are doubling down on ******ity ....

    Head of WADA TUE Committee and director both stated that the current testing program would have difficulties catching those who micro-dose.

    "We certainly know that people try to get to the margins of beating systems and the passport will be no exception to that," said Wada's chief executive David Howman."

    "It's not a panacea. It's another tool in the toolkit, so to speak, and it's used not only to find somebody breaking the rules, (but) also to say: 'This guy's got a profile which is a bit wonky. Go and target-test that guy'."

    but

    remember when I said that targeted testing is having difficulties catching those who micro-dose? You said, that is what the Biological Passport is for!!! lol KABOOM!


    Head of WADA TUE Committee said it himself that those that get away with it are micro-dosing and then tried to look at it as glass half full but as I pointed out, there is a definite benefit.

    SO YOU ARE WRONG and they agreed with me!
    I said it for 2 years. Its a tool. Read above. They said too what I said that Biological Passport will have difficulties with micro-dosing. They agreed.


    Sure. I'll show you what they said about the French report about beating the ABP. You did read that before, didn't you?
    What's wrong with you? That article is not stating that WADA has a lock down using Biological Passport. As I even said, its just a tool that can help but as what you actually showed me, it proves that you are WRONG!!!

    ONLY 2 of 5 means that 3 beat the test and the reason for Biological Passport is that for some substances, targeted testing has a hard time catching them!!!! So if the athletes refine their protocol then they beat the test!!!! KABOOM!

    IF it worked so well then why do they continually say that its hard to catch those who micro-dose?
    Same article said this. SO THIS PROVES THAT YOU ARE WRONG AND I WAS RIGHT!!! Biological Passport is a tool but has difficulties with micro-dosing.

    Why say this if its like you said?
    "WADA reiterated their commitment to working with experts from the anti-doping community to enhance the ABP and tackle micro-dosing."


    You just needed to read the title and understand it:
    "WADA acknowledge French study into micro-dosing has "raised questions" about ability of athletes to avoid detection"

    Or do you need something regarding what you found about a guy doping for 11 weeks. LMAO. Here:
    Man you made me laugh. All that says is that they didn't have the journalists data ..... lol .... too funny! He was tested using the Biological Passport's software and passed!!!

    Even the article that you showed me does that for 3 of 5 .....

    How's that? You also fail to realize that it's much different for someone who has 6 MOTHA****ING YEARS OF BEING MONITORED, YOU COMPLETE MORON!

    Moron? You are the moron to even bring this up ....

    Floyd is the one who lets USADA know when they can start testing him and when is the end date for testing.

    Often, its just a span of 6-8 weeks twice a year when he fights twice. They do not even test for blood on the days (week of) just before a fight. Go tell me one expert that thinks what you are thinking?

    Not even the head of the WADA TUE committee thinks its on the up and up when Floyd's reps are paying WADA for all those 6 years!!!!! USADA needs to be totally independent. The current system is not doing that.

    I told you all that ..... you called me a moron but then is this guy who disagreed with you a moron too? lol!


    Um, excuse me. I believe he said "why couldn't they hydrate him orally. That is a question, you imbecile. Do you know the answer?
    Excuse me DEFLECTOR but this is what was said. Yes it was a question to say, why didn't they just rehydrate Floyd orally because that is what he would have done ..... lol:

    "I TOTALLY AGREE. It doesn't smell right to me. To enable you to compete, you get a RETRO TUE to get an IV? What were they giving him and why couldn't they rehydrate him orally, clinically, that is what we do. You do not need an IV unless you are vomiting and have diarrheas and cannot drink orally and if that all happens then you will not be entering the ring against Manny Pacquiao."


    TO his question:
    We know for a fact that Floyd was being rehydrated orally because we have it on tape BOTH BEFORE and AFTER!!! lol!!!

    An IV is just to rehydrate not to relieve you of diarrhea nor was he vomiting since BEFORE and after he drank freely and was eating too!!! KABOOM! So he was saying, if its not for that (URGENT), Floyd shouldn't have gotten a RETRO TUE and therefore the IV was unacceptable.

    He also mentioned diarrhea. Going by your logic, you should have been rushed to the hospital by now with all the **** that leaks out of your mouth.
    DEFLECTOR, do you know what he is saying? He is saying in URGENT cases such as when someone has an illness where he would be continually vomiting, have diarrhea and cannot drink then of course you give him an IV and of course, that person would not be going and fight Manny Pacquiao due to his condition. IVs only rehydrate you. Not cure you from vomiting and diarrhea .... but miraculously, FloydHype proved that NOT to be the case for Floyd since we saw him drinking soon after and EATING TOO!!! KABOOOM!

    Being that he clearly stated that WADA can review and overturn the TUE, yet they didn't, I think that qualifies as WADA either having no problem with what happened, or WADA being bad at their job. It's all sitting in their database, is it not?
    Now you are finally agreeing that WADA could have missed it. Thanks for stating that YOU WERE WRONG (previously) when you used this excuse in keeping USADA in check and said it had to be a conspiracy with every level in on it!!! lol

    Head of WADA Committee said that they do not have the resources to check everyone up. I told you that they do not check everyone. Using your excuse, you now agree with me and WADA's statement. Nice!


    You wish, bltch. You just have no idea of what you are talking about. You ever going to explain how he did this with 6 years of data? Do you think the guy you mentioned had 6 years of data? He had more like 6 weeks, you ******.
    ****** is someone thinking that Floyd's gold standard of testing is the way to test athletes!


    This guy gave samples for 14 straight weeks from before during and after using EPO and passed the Biological Passport software.

    That is more than Floyd does for each fight since for Floyd its usually a span of just 6-8 weeks. Floyd should have an easier time. He also delayed TWICE out of about 10 fights. That is like 20% of his fights, that we know of. Used an IV .... had very low T/E ratios on several occasions! and other times where it was said that he tested positive (positive is a rumor for now).

    What that guy did does not even include what athletes do to cover up their tracks. Like masking, delaying and so on. Floyd can let you know what that is all about!

    Then why won't you explain how he did this? You duck my questions because even you know that it makes no sense, you butthurt imbecile. The only question left here is...how could Pacquiao losing to Mayweather have affected your life so much that it's made you into a bumbling idiot only put here to get smacked around day after day.
    Man we are on point 6 and you just continue with your gift of DEFLECTING!!!!

    What is wrong with you? When will you answer my questions without deflecting? lol

    Go read up. Lots of info on how its hard to catch athletes who micro-dose.

    Says the man who had no facts at all. You're too ****** to comprehend what you're reading. The guy had no information about Floyd Mayweather. If that's all it takes...then how about this:

    Here's another guy from WADA who had no details of a particular case (Pacquiao) but is giving his opinion of something that may not smell right to him. Perhaps you can offer us your opinion on this:




    Wahhhhhh. Someone from WADA who doesn't know all the details is saying something seems off to him. In your world this means.....Pacquiao is guilty of some wrongdoing, no?
    Oh man, at least you made me laugh.

    Manny didn't even use Torodal for the fight, fool!

    Toradol is NOT banned and Manny asked USADA beforehand if he can use it and USADA agreed it wasn't banned and it can be used.

    So apples and oranges.

    Floyd used a currently BANNED METHOD where even the "head of WADA TUE Committee" considers what Floyd did fishy.

    "I TOTALLY AGREE. It doesn't smell right to me."



    I congratulate you in DEFLECTING all 6 points that I asked you to respond to.

    Now that you see that your deflections were just that, I will repost those questions again to see if you have answers for them.

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    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      The DEFLECTOR DEFLECTED AGAIN!!!! What a surprise...... maybe that is what SPOON was warning me about with you. It was a while back. Hope he can refresh my memory.

      THey all said it. I got you 2 top guys from WADA and more ..... you came back with "You are not stating the truth" and "YOU FAILED"


      Now go back and read what was said by the 2 WADA personnel.

      1) Did they say that a Biological Passport can easily catch microdosing as you and DoNothing keep on bringing up? If yes, show me where!!!

      2) Did Head of WADA say that IV is the way to go or did he say "rehydrate him orally, clinically, that is what we do."

      3) Did he call out Floyd situation as "URGENT" case or did he put it in the class of where a RETRO TUE would not be considered and gave 4 examples. 2 URGENT cases where it would be valid and 2 cases where it wouldn't?

      4) Did they call out what USADA did "good practice" or "murky world" and say "USADA wasn't acting totally independent"

      5) You were wrong about Biological Passports!!!

      6) You were wrong about EPO Mirco-dosing!!!


      So unless you come back with facts, just post back that you are going to DEFLECT so I do not need to read your nonsense!!!
      Originally posted by travestyny View Post

      I, travestyny, DEFLECTED AGAIN!
      I fixed it (your response) for you.

      Try again!

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      • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        So I see that you are doubling down on ******ity ....

        Head of WADA TUE Committee and director both stated that the current testing program would have difficulties catching those who micro-dose.

        "We certainly know that people try to get to the margins of beating systems and the passport will be no exception to that," said Wada's chief executive David Howman."

        "It's not a panacea. It's another tool in the toolkit, so to speak, and it's used not only to find somebody breaking the rules, (but) also to say: 'This guy's got a profile which is a bit wonky. Go and target-test that guy'."

        but

        remember when I said that targeted testing is having difficulties catching those who micro-dose? You said, that is what the Biological Passport is for!!! lol KABOOM!
        You are such a cowadly bltch. Neither of those quotes say it's hard to catch micro-dosing. Can you read?

        WRONGGGG. Please just stop. I gave the quotations that these guys gave. First of all, neither the French study or the one you mentioned gave evidence that they used the ABP properly. Secondly, none of them had data dating from over a year. Keep trying, ******. You were WRONGGG.

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Head of WADA TUE Committee said it himself that those that get away with it are micro-dosing and then tried to look at it as glass half full but as I pointed out, there is a definite benefit.

        SO YOU ARE WRONG and they agreed with me!
        I said it for 2 years. Its a tool. Read above. They said too what I said that Biological Passport will have difficulties with micro-dosing. They agreed.
        If you think saying neither of the studies have proven that they "beat" the ABP agrees with you....then.....yup, you're a moron.

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        What's wrong with you? That article is not stating that WADA has a lock down using Biological Passport. As I even said, its just a tool that can help but as what you actually showed me, it proves that you are WRONG!!!

        ONLY 2 of 5 means that 3 beat the test and the reason for Biological Passport is that for some substances, targeted testing has a hard time catching them!!!! So if the athletes refine their protocol then they beat the test!!!! KABOOM!

        lmaoooo. Every time you use that Kaboom, you make a fool of yourself. Didn't I tell you that? 2 of 5 would have FAILED straight up. 3 would have caused target testing. To think that you can just say they beat the test is misinformed you moron. Did any of these subjects go through target testing? Did they? Nope. Suck a dlck.


        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        IF it worked so well then why do they continually say that its hard to catch those who micro-dose?
        Same article said this. SO THIS PROVES THAT YOU ARE WRONG AND I WAS RIGHT!!! Biological Passport is a tool but has difficulties with micro-dosing.
        What quote said that it is hard to catch micro-dosing? Are you still making up things? lmaoooo. Prove it. Post it up. What you quoted above does NOT say that. You are such a bltch, you know that. you lie every ****ing chance you get and think people are too ****** to realize you are lying? LMAOOOO. Stop embarrassing yourself, kid.

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Why say this if its like you said?
        "WADA reiterated their commitment to working with experts from the anti-doping community to enhance the ABP and tackle micro-dosing."
        Um...that's their job, you idiot.


        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        You just needed to read the title and understand it:
        "WADA acknowledge French study into micro-dosing has "raised questions" about ability of athletes to avoid detection"
        Um....isn't that their job? You're a moron.

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Man you made me laugh. All that says is that they didn't have the journalists data ..... lol .... too funny! He was tested using the Biological Passport's software and passed!!!

        Even the article that you showed me does that for 3 of 5 .....
        The article I showed you did NOT use the software properly. The article you showed didn't even give any proof because he "didn't want to reveal his source." So um....what do you actually have? Shlt...because you are a desperate shlt poster.


        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Moron? You are the moron to even bring this up ....

        Floyd is the one who lets USADA know when they can start testing him and when is the end date for testing.

        Often, its just a span of 6-8 weeks twice a year when he fights twice. They do not even test for blood on the days (week of) just before a fight. Go tell me one expert that thinks what you are thinking?
        Ohhhh, so now experts mean something to you. LMAOOOO. Why do I even bother with you. You go back and forth like a slut in her favorite bar. You want an expert on this topic. Sure:

        UKAD’s Head of Science and Medicine, Nick Wojek discusses the importance of the Athlete Biological Passport in protecting clean sport.

        Another important thing to remember about the ABP is that it is a long-term tool. It is a longitudinal profile of an athlete over their career – a unique fingerprint of sorts. If the ABP can’t prove that an athlete is doping at one point, there’s an opportunity to prove something isn’t right at a later stage.
        That good enough for you? LMAO. They've had data from Mayweather going back 6 ****ing years, fool. He's taken something like 130 tests under the WADA protocol. YOU MORON!

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Not even the head of the WADA TUE committee thinks its on the up and up when Floyd's reps are paying WADA for all those 6 years!!!!! USADA needs to be totally independent. The current system is not doing that.
        Um, excuse me. I've asked you a few times now. What do you think of Top Rank paying VADA. Let's see if you are a hypocrite or not. What say you?


        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        I told you all that ..... you called me a moron but then is this guy who disagreed with you a moron too? lol!
        You ARE a moron. Who disagreed with me. I didn't see that part at all. I saw this guy DISAGREE WITH YOU and you went to try to find some studies to back you up. LMAOOOOOO!


        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Excuse me DEFLECTOR but this is what was said. Yes it was a question to say, why didn't they just rehydrate Floyd orally because that is what he would have done ..... lol:

        "I TOTALLY AGREE. It doesn't smell right to me. To enable you to compete, you get a RETRO TUE to get an IV? What were they giving him and why couldn't they rehydrate him orally, clinically, that is what we do. You do not need an IV unless you are vomiting and have diarrheas and cannot drink orally and if that all happens then you will not be entering the ring against Manny Pacquiao."
        Once again, so where did he say Floyd wasn't supposed to get the TUE? He asked questions, didn't he. Meaning, he doesn't know about this case, as he stated. Pst.....you're wrong again.

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        TO his question:
        We know for a fact that Floyd was being rehydrated orally because we have it on tape BOTH BEFORE and AFTER!!! lol!!!
        Do we know how effective it was? What was his medical condition? Is it possible to hydrate orally and have it not be effective? Do you know anything about whatever medical condition he had? You're just a butthurt fan that had his life ruined because his idol LOST. bahahahahahaha!

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        An IV is just to rehydrate not to relieve you of diarrhea nor was he vomiting since BEFORE and after he drank freely and was eating too!!! KABOOM! So he was saying, if its not for that (URGENT), Floyd shouldn't have gotten a RETRO TUE and therefore the IV was unacceptable.
        Say what? An IV is just to rehydrate...therefore it was unacceptable? LMAO. WAD disagrees, you clown. I posted the quotation. "Yes, an IV for rehydration is acceptable."

        Urgent does not mean it was an emergency, you moron. He pointed to having "No time to apply for a TUE." He said that specifically, didn't he? Then he gave an example of having no time to apply for a TUE.

        BOOOOOOOM!

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        DEFLECTOR, do you know what he is saying? He is saying in URGENT cases such as when someone has an illness where he would be continually vomiting, have diarrhea and cannot drink then of course you give him an IV and of course, that person would not be going and fight Manny Pacquiao due to his condition. IVs only rehydrate you. Not cure you from vomiting and diarrhea .... but miraculously, FloydHype proved that NOT to be the case for Floyd since we saw him drinking soon after and EATING TOO!!! KABOOOM!
        I see I have to post this again since you are not only misinformed, but you are...an idiot. LMAO

        WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE can be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration. “For a case that would be monitored by WADA, yes the ISTUE could allow for intravenous infusions to be used in instances of dehydration”, a WADA spokesperson told the Sports Integrity Initiative.

        Ka...ka....KABOOOOOOOM! BIOTCH

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Now you are finally agreeing that WADA could have missed it. Thanks for stating that YOU WERE WRONG (previously) when you used this excuse in keeping USADA in check and said it had to be a conspiracy with every level in on it!!! lol

        Head of WADA Committee said that they do not have the resources to check everyone up. I told you that they do not check everyone. Using your excuse, you now agree with me and WADA's statement. Nice!
        LMAOOOOOOOO. Dudeeeeeeeee. Then what rule did USADA and Floyd break if they uploaded this to WADA? Huh? Huhhhhhhhhh? I told YOU that it was uploaded to WADA's database because USADA and Floyd had NOTHING to hide, right? WADA didn't "miss it" you imbecile. If they didn't check it, that's on WADA. In fact, they can STILL check it. It's sitting there. And there is no proof that they didn't check it. I never claimed that they definitively checked it. I said it was uploaded for them to check because I posted to you a billion times that they had the right to if they so choose to. So.....what you got?

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        ****** is someone thinking that Floyd's gold standard of testing is the way to test athletes!


        This guy gave samples for 14 straight weeks from before during and after using EPO and passed the Biological Passport software.

        That is more than Floyd does for each fight since for Floyd its usually a span of just 6-8 weeks. Floyd should have an easier time. He also delayed TWICE out of about 10 fights. That is like 20% of his fights, that we know of. Used an IV .... had very low T/E ratios on several occasions! and other times where it was said that he tested positive (positive is a rumor for now).

        What that guy did does not even include what athletes do to cover up their tracks. Like masking, delaying and so on. Floyd can let you know what that is all about!
        Lmao. So you are comparing 11 weeks and...how many tests...Maybe 14...to 6 years and 130 tests?

        Give the **** up you desperate clown.

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Man we are on point 6 and you just continue with your gift of DEFLECTING!!!!

        What is wrong with you? When will you answer my questions without deflecting? lol

        Go read up. Lots of info on how its hard to catch athletes who micro-dose.
        Your "Gold Standard" WADA guy said it doesn't do shlt. So do you think you know more than him? Or do you think one of your studies actually exposed him? LMAOOOO. You can't win. You're trying to prove he doesn't know what he is talking about with bullshlt evidence....yet at the same time you're trying to say he is saying Floyd shouldn't have gotten the IV, which he DIDN'T SAY at all. What the **** is wrong with you. This sums you up perfect. Picking and choosing what you want, then completely shltting on the very same source if he doesn't say what you like. LMAOOOOOO! You're a clownnnnnnn!

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Oh man, at least you made me laugh.
        Stop lying. I've made you cry a billion times now. I'm gonna keep doing it.

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Manny didn't even use Torodal for the fight, fool!
        CAN YOU ****ING READ??? I EVEN HIGHLIGHTED IT FOR YOU. IT SAYS OUT...OF...COMPETITION. HE USED IT OUT OF COMPETITION!!!!! ****ING LEARN TO READ DUDE!

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Toradol is NOT banned and Manny asked USADA beforehand if he can use it and USADA agreed it wasn't banned and it can be used.

        So apples and oranges.
        LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. DUDE....THIS IS HYSTERICAL.

        AN IV WITH A TUE IS NOT BANNED and FLOYD ASKED USADA BEFOREHAND IF HE CAN USE IT AND USADA AGREED IT WASN'T BANNED AND IT CAN BE USED WITH A TUE.

        lmaooooooooo. Good job, shirlock. Maybe you're getting it now. LMAOOO!

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Floyd used a currently BANNED METHOD where even the "head of WADA TUE Committee" considers what Floyd did fishy.

        "I TOTALLY AGREE. It doesn't smell right to me."
        Nope. I fail to see how it was BANNED with a tue. FAILLLLL. Saying it smells fishy just means he should do his job. That's like me being a security guard and saying the man in the trench coat looks like he's shop lifting...that seems fishy...and then finishing my lunch.

        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        I congratulate you in DEFLECTING all 6 points that I asked you to respond to.

        Now that you see that your deflections were just that, I will repost those questions again to see if you have answers for them.
        I congratulate you on ducking my questions yet again. Come on, ADP02. I want to know how you think he did this. We were at the DCO not being in on it, right? Take me to what happened after this. Answer my questions. I'm enjoying this fantasy story!
        Last edited by travestyny; 02-11-2017, 05:09 PM.

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        • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          1. What do you think it means when they state the DCO witnessed Mayweather's physical condition that made the IV necessary? Please tell us your interpretation of this.

          2. What do you think of the partial sample that was given from before the IV? Why didn't that foil this plan? Don't say because of a delay, because you don't know when Floyd delayed. When he delayed for the Mosley fight, the partial sample was given immediately. Why would this be any different?

          3. The DCO measures specific gravity. How could Mayweather have diluted in front of this upstanding DCO? Remember, you were proven WRONG about IV use being allowed to dilute a sample. Weren't you? Weren't you???? (what a surprise...you being proven wrong is like he sun coming up at this point).



          Did I add that to the list of things you were wrong about? I lost count

          4. After 6 years of ABP data, how is Mayweather able to micro-dose, thus making his blood levels higher? Go look up the word "longitudinal," which is used to describe the ABP. Maybe then you will realize the mistake you are making, clown.

          Please expain!!!! Or rather, give up. I'm tired of owning you. OH SORRY, I MEAN I'M TIRED OF OWNING ALL OF YOU SINCE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER NOW. LMAOOOO!!!!!!
          Fixed this for you:

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          I ducked this again!
          Are you going to answer these questions. Come onnnnn. You claim that Floyd cheated. Just tell us how he did it. This is the greatest story on the internet right now, and I want to know what you got.

          So the DCO wasn't in on it. Ok. Now continue with my questions. I can't wait!!!

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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            HOW DOES THIS ANSWER THE QUESTIONS?????? HOW DID HE PASS ALL OF THE OTHER TESTS. DUCKINGGGG!

            What a dumb question. How do others who cheat pass so many tests? Respond to this DEFLECTOR!!!

            Lance Armstrong said he passed all his tests. Was he PEDs free? Answer that DEFLECTOR!!!


            BUT the point that you DEFLECTED is that delaying is the #1 most effective way of avoiding being tested positive.


            2) That we know of, those 9 fights, Floyd delayed on at least 2 occasions. We know because of the circumstances. Lots we will never know.

            3) So now that I answered your dumb DEFLECTION, the FACT still remains that Floyd delayed. CHECK!



            LMAOOOOOOOO. THE SAMPLE IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE DILUTED. HOW DID HE DILUTE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE DCO? PLEASE EXPLAINNNNN!
            a) His urine automatically is more diluted if you are allowed to drink orally and use an IV. doh!

            b) Floyd mixed the samples. One is more diluted and attained after more delays. The end sample is more diluted than the initially insufficient sample. doh!

            SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THE DCO WASN'T IN ON ANY OF THIS....BUT IT'S STATED THAT HE WITNESSED MAYWEATHER'S CONDITION THAT REQUIRED THE IV. SO...HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT?????
            Reconcile? DCO is NOT a doctor. Doctor decided to give Floyd an IV. All he did was monitor (witness) Floyd getting an IV. DCO then wrote down the IV incident. Not complicated.

            SURE. NO PROBLEM. BUT IT SAID HE WITNESSED HIS CONDITION THAT MADE THE IV NECESSARY. IF YOU'RE SAYING THIS GUY WAS DOING HIS JOB ON THE UP AND UP, THEN WHAT ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT. ARE YOU ARGUING THAT BY WITNESSING WHY MAYWEATHER NEEDED THE IV...THIS MEANS HE WITNESSED NOTHING?? AHAHAHAHAHAHA

            BOOOM!
            DCO is NOT a doctor.
            Doctor decided to give Floyd an IV. All he did was monitor (witness) Floyd getting an IV. DCO then wrote down the IV incident. Not complicated.

            We all witnessed Floyd's vital signs, drinking orally adequately, no weight issues, pre-fight form had nothing, NSAC doctor was not told anything by Floyd ..... then after all that, he needed an IV? Then after that we saw him drinking and eating again? ..... KABOOOOM!!!

            While eating and drinking after the IV, Floyd said he has advantages over others who need to dehydrate then rehydrate 20-30lbs while Floyd sits at the weight limit so Floyd admits to the advantage ..... KABOOOOM!!!

            You saw all the evidence above and said, you need more data .... Plus now we have the head of the WADA TUE Committee saying that Floyd should NOT have received an IV, he should have orally drank. Man, we witnessed that too both BEFORE and AFTER!!!!!

            How are you going to reconcile all that???


            LMAOOOOO. KEEP BRINGING UP LANCE ARMSTRONG. THAT'S WHAT WE CALL....

            DEFLECTING


            WAS LANCE RIGHT IN FRONT OF A DCO WHEN HE HAD THE IV?


            WAS HE???


            LMAOOOOOOO. YOU JUST DUCKED AGAIN YOU LITTLE BlTCH. WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!!!


            GAME OVER!
            What kinda dumb talk is that?

            Lance delayed many times. Just like Floyd.

            Lance got a RETRO PRESCRIPTION. Just like Floyd.

            Lance used an IV. So did Floyd!!!

            Lance had UCI on his side protecting him. Floyd had USADA protecting him.


            Lance paid off UCI. So that makes UCI not an independent organization. Floyd's representatives paid off USADA for 6 years!!!! As the head of WADA TUE Committee said, "It's a murky world"

            "I TOTALLY AGREE. It doesn't smell right to me."

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            • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post


              What kinda dumb talk is that?

              Lance delayed many times. Just like Floyd.

              Lance got a RETRO PRESCRIPTION. Just like Floyd.

              Lance used an IV. So did Floyd!!!

              Lance had UCI on his side protecting him. Floyd had USADA protecting him.


              Lance paid off UCI. So that makes UCI not an independent organization. Floyd's representatives paid off USADA for 6 years!!!! As the head of WADA TUE Committee said, "It's a murky world"

              "I TOTALLY AGREE. It doesn't smell right to me."
              I met a certified idiot some time ago , he did the same things you do.

              Does this mean your are the same as him ?

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              • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                What a dumb question. How do others who cheat pass so many tests? Respond to this DEFLECTOR!!!

                Lance Armstrong said he passed all his tests. Was he PEDs free? Answer that DEFLECTOR!!!
                The difference between you and me is...I actually respond because nothing you write is difficult to respond to. So sure, I'll answer.

                Lance Armstrong, whom you love apparently, lied about the amount of tests that he passed. That's first of all. Second, many of those tests were not under the WADA protocol. Third, many of the tests he passed were at a time where they didn't have adequate testing for what he was doing. When these tests came out, they went back and tested his samples, and he FAILED.

                So...what you got? Are you going to explain now how Floyd passed the urine and blood tests and the ABP without the IV. Let's hear what you got. I answered your questions. Can you come back? LMAO.


                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                BUT the point that you DEFLECTED is that delaying is the #1 most effective way of avoiding being tested positive.
                1. Did you find out when he gave the partial sample?
                2. If delaying is such a big deal, why does WADA allow delaying?
                3. Was it ever documented that he delayed for all 11 of the urine tests?
                4. How do you delay a blood test?

                LMAOOOOO!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                2) That we know of, those 9 fights, Floyd delayed on at least 2 occasions. We know because of the circumstances. Lots we will never know.

                3) So now that I answered your dumb DEFLECTION, the FACT still remains that Floyd delayed. CHECK!
                Ok, so if I'm understanding this correctly, your answer is that he passed these other tests without the IV by delaying.

                LMAOOOO.

                Follow up question: Can you delay a blood test?
                Follow up question 2: If you have to delay to pass a test, what do you think will show up on the ABP?

                KABOOOOOOOM :P


                Where the **** are you getting this "delaying is the number 1 way to pass a test bullshlt. It makes no ****ing sense. So he was so worried about failing that he needed an IV, yet he passed all of these other tests simply by knowing he can delay. You said yourself that detection time was 12-18 hours. So each time he made sure there was a delay of at least 18 hours? Do you see how much of a moron you are???

                I'd love to have you be drug tested for a period of about 2 months and always be able to delay giving urine for 18 hours between taking something, you idiot.

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                a) His urine automatically is more diluted if you are allowed to drink orally and use an IV. doh!
                LMAOOOOOOOOOOO. DUDE. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO POST THIS?

                IV infusions before sample collection could actually prolong the doping control sample process because it has a greater potential to produce multiple dilute samples.

                ADMIT YOU ARE WRONGGGGGG!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                b) Floyd mixed the samples. One is more diluted and attained after more delays. The end sample is more diluted than the initially insufficient sample. doh!
                LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO! DUDEEEEEE. THE SAMPLES, WHEN MIXED, ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE DILUTED!!!!!! YOU ARE FAILING THIS PROOF, I SEE. LMAOOOO!

                If a subsequent Sample provided by the Athlete looks more diluted than the Sample stored in the partial Sample kit, the DCO is to advise the Athlete to pour only the amount of urine required to meet the Suitable Volume for Analysis.
                Otherwise there is a risk that the specific gravity of the Sample may be reduced to an unacceptable level, which then requires the Athlete to provide an additional Sample or Samples.
                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Reconcile? DCO is NOT a doctor. Doctor decided to give Floyd an IV. All he did was monitor (witness) Floyd getting an IV. DCO then wrote down the IV incident. Not complicated.

                DCO is NOT a doctor.
                Doctor decided to give Floyd an IV. All he did was monitor (witness) Floyd getting an IV. DCO then wrote down the IV incident. Not complicated.
                HE...WITNESSED....MAYWEATHER'S....PHYSICAL.....CON DITION...THAT NECESITATED...THE IV.

                You didn't answer the question. What does that mean to you?

                By the way, a paramedic then showed up to administer the IV. A doctor filled out the TUE report. So...what exactly is your point? Oh yea, you don't have one. You are failinggggg!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                We all witnessed Floyd's vital signs, drinking orally adequately, no weight issues, pre-fight form had nothing, NSAC doctor was not told anything by Floyd ..... then after all that, he needed an IV? Then after that we saw him drinking and eating again? ..... KABOOOOM!!!
                So let me get this straight. We all "witnessed" his vital signs and him drinking, blah blah blah, yet when the DCO witnesses his need for an IV....he isn't a doctor.

                :-|

                LMAOOOOOO. THIS IS FUN. KEEP MURDERING YOURSELF, CLOWN. I'M REALLY ENJOYING THIS!

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                While eating and drinking after the IV, Floyd said he has advantages over others who need to dehydrate then rehydrate 20-30lbs while Floyd sits at the weight limit so Floyd admits to the advantage ..... KABOOOOM!!!
                Is there an actual point here? Nope, I didn't think so, but thought I'd ask. Are you trying to say that Floyd can't be dehydrated because he doesn't rehydrate 20-30lbs?

                .....You're an imbecile.

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                You saw all the evidence above and said, you need more data .... Plus now we have the head of the WADA TUE Committee saying that Floyd should NOT have received an IV, he should have orally drank. Man, we witnessed that too both BEFORE and AFTER!!!!!
                How many times are you going to lie? I want the quotation. Give me the quotation where, as you state above, the head of the WADA TUE Committee says Floyd should not have received an IV. Really. Post it. If you post it...you win! It's very simple.

                But...if you can't post it...then I have to call you out for giving false information again. I think that's fair, don't you?

                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                How are you going to reconcile all that???



                What kinda dumb talk is that?

                Lance delayed many times. Just like Floyd.

                Lance got a RETRO PRESCRIPTION. Just like Floyd.

                Lance used an IV. So did Floyd!!!

                Lance had UCI on his side protecting him. Floyd had USADA protecting him.


                Lance paid off UCI. So that makes UCI not an independent organization. Floyd's representatives paid off USADA for 6 years!!!! As the head of WADA TUE Committee said, "It's a murky world"

                "I TOTALLY AGREE. It doesn't smell right to me."
                wowww.

                1. Lance was ripped a new ******* by....wait for it...USADA. Delaying doesn't make someone a cheat, you moron.

                2. Lance did not get a TUE from USADA that was then sent to WADA. Good try, though.

                3. Lance did NOT declare the IV ahead of time and then have a USADA representative with him while having the IV. Good try, though.

                4. Again, should we throw out VADA testing when boxers or promoters pay for it. Damn. And I actually thought Donaire was a good dude for doing that year round testing. I guess according to you, it's all for nothing. LMAO. Idiot. Oh yea, and Pacquiao too. Those VADA tests...hmm. VADA must have been in pocket right? RIGHT???? RIGHTTTTTTTTTTT?

                5. Your posts don't smell right to me. You are failing your proof. Are you going to keep trying, or do you give up?
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                • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                  I met a certified idiot some time ago , he did the same things you do.

                  Does this mean your are the same as him ?
                  This guy is saying that the points brought up are not possible. So Lance is but one example that those points are all possible.

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                  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    Fixed this for you:



                    Are you going to answer these questions. Come onnnnn. You claim that Floyd cheated. Just tell us how he did it. This is the greatest story on the internet right now, and I want to know what you got.

                    So the DCO wasn't in on it. Ok. Now continue with my questions. I can't wait!!!

                    You answered the question and didn't even realize it.

                    You saw that with someone who didn't even try to hide his PEDs use got away with it with 14 weeks of data. 3 weeks of no use, about 7 weeks of use and 3-4 weeks of no use. Not the gradual climb, usage or drops later was enough to trigger a positive result with the Biological Passport software.

                    You said but that was only 14 weeks, right?

                    Floyd gets to decide the start and end dates to USADA and just for about 6-8 weeks. Blood tests not close to the fight.

                    So all Floyd has to do is NOT for 14 weeks but for 6-8 weeks keep his levels consistent each time that USADA tests in a fight. Micro-dosing is an easy way of doing it as that guy showed.


                    Now you should realize that it is not too hard!


                    Let me know if its because Floyd is your hero or you are to naïve when it comes to athletes using PEDs?



                    "Hamilton dismisses the characterization of athletes and drug testers as being involved in an “arms race”. WADA never really had a chance of winning according to Hamilton. It was merely a “big game of hide-and-seek played in a forest that has lots of good places to hide, and lots of rules that favor the hiders.”


                    A key weakness in the WADA code involves the seven hour window every day during which athletes are assured they will not be tested for steroids, EPO or any other prohibited performance-enhancing drug (PED).

                    WADA requires that athletes make themselves available for testing between the hours of 6am and 11pm every day of the year.

                    WADA and Spain assume that any use of PEDs during this window will still remain detectable the following morning.

                    Cyclists know that this is not the case.

                    Hamilton explains how athletes have exploited this weakness in his book.


                    Evading detection in the urinary EPO test is relatively easy. It requires a procedure known as micro-dosing. Rather than inject EPO subcutaneously every 3-4 days, athletes inject smaller amounts of EPO intravenously every night.


                    “Instead of injecting 2,000 units of Edgar [EPO] every third or fourth night, we injected 400 or 500 units every night. Glowtime minimized; problem solved. We called it microdosing.”

                    Cyclists know that the biological passport has not eliminated doping. Doping simply requires a little more effort. The goal is to maintain a physiological range of reticulocytes between 0.5% and 1.5%. Blood doping can be masked by micro-dosing with EPO after blood infusions to keep the reticulocyte percentage in range.

                    Keep the above in mind when you hear people celebrate the so-called new generation of clean riders. Just like the introduction of EPO didn’t mark the beginning of doping in cycling, neither does the introduction of the biological passport mark the end of EPO.

                    Doping was rampant before EPO (with amphetamines and steroids). The nature of doping just changed with EPO. Similarly, doping has simply been transformed as a result of new testing.


                    Doping is a fact of life in cycling. People should stop pretending it isn’t.

                    What do you tell the kids that want to become professional cyclists? How about the truth. There is no Santa Claus. There is no Easter Bunny. And there is no such thing as Clean Sport at the elite level"


                    .
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                    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      You answered the question and didn't even realize it.

                      You saw that with someone who didn't even try to hide his PEDs use got away with it with 14 weeks of data. 3 weeks of no use, about 7 weeks of use and 3-4 weeks of no use. Not the gradual climb, usage or drops later was enough to trigger a positive result with the Biological Passport software.

                      You said but that was only 14 weeks, right?

                      Floyd gets to decide the start and end dates to USADA and just for about 6-8 weeks. Blood tests not close to the fight.

                      So all Floyd has to do is NOT for 14 weeks but for 6-8 weeks keep his levels consistent each time that USADA tests in a fight. Micro-dosing is an easy way of doing it as that guy showed.


                      Now you should realize that it is not too hard!
                      Are you just pretending to be ******? They have data on Mayweather going back 6 years. They have over 130 tests done on Mayweather. If you can't understand why this is not the same as the above, then there is no hope for you.

                      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      Let me know if its because Floyd is your hero or you are to naïve when it comes to athletes using PEDs?



                      "Hamilton dismisses the characterization of athletes and drug testers as being involved in an “arms race”. WADA never really had a chance of winning according to Hamilton. It was merely a “big game of hide-and-seek played in a forest that has lots of good places to hide, and lots of rules that favor the hiders.”


                      A key weakness in the WADA code involves the seven hour window every day during which athletes are assured they will not be tested for steroids, EPO or any other prohibited performance-enhancing drug (PED).

                      WADA requires that athletes make themselves available for testing between the hours of 6am and 11pm every day of the year.

                      WADA and Spain assume that any use of PEDs during this window will still remain detectable the following morning.

                      Cyclists know that this is not the case.

                      Hamilton explains how athletes have exploited this weakness in his book.


                      Evading detection in the urinary EPO test is relatively easy. It requires a procedure known as micro-dosing. Rather than inject EPO subcutaneously every 3-4 days, athletes inject smaller amounts of EPO intravenously every night.


                      “Instead of injecting 2,000 units of Edgar [EPO] every third or fourth night, we injected 400 or 500 units every night. Glowtime minimized; problem solved. We called it microdosing.”

                      Cyclists know that the biological passport has not eliminated doping. Doping simply requires a little more effort. The goal is to maintain a physiological range of reticulocytes between 0.5% and 1.5%. Blood doping can be masked by micro-dosing with EPO after blood infusions to keep the reticulocyte percentage in range.

                      Keep the above in mind when you hear people celebrate the so-called new generation of clean riders. Just like the introduction of EPO didn’t mark the beginning of doping in cycling, neither does the introduction of the biological passport mark the end of EPO.

                      Doping was rampant before EPO (with amphetamines and steroids). The nature of doping just changed with EPO. Similarly, doping has simply been transformed as a result of new testing.


                      Doping is a fact of life in cycling. People should stop pretending it isn’t.

                      What do you tell the kids that want to become professional cyclists? How about the truth. There is no Santa Claus. There is no Easter Bunny. And there is no such thing as Clean Sport at the elite level"


                      .
                      LMAO. MORE BULLSHlT. DID YOU REALLY JUST GIVE A LONG ASS QUOTATION FROM A GUY IN 2012???? REALLY???? YOU NEED TO BRUSH UP ON YOUR RESEARCH. WADA CAN WAKE UP ATHLETES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT IF THEY WANT. UPDATE YOURSELF, SON.

                      Inject it every night???? LMAO. What the hell. Are you really this ******?

                      NOW YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT COMES DOWN TO FLOYD MICRO-DOSING OVER 6-8 WEEKS AND MAKING SURE THAT HE CAN DELAY PROVIDING A URINE SAMPLE AFTER EACH MICRO-DOSE FOR AT LEAST 18 HOURS, IF NOT LONGER. LMAOOOOOOO!

                      Mayweather gave urine on March 13, 18, 19 and 28, April 2, 10, 15, 21 and 27 and May 1 and 2. He gave blood samples on March 13, 18 and 28, April 2, 10, 15 and 21 and May 2.

                      UNLESS HE HAS THE LUCK OF A LEPRECHAUN, THERE IS NO WAY HE COULD HAVE CONSISTENTLY BEEN ABLE TO GUESS HOW TO CONTINUE MICRO-DOSING AND ALWAYS BE PREPARED TO GO CLEAN 18 HOURS FOR A TEST. THIS IS SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE TO CALCULATE.

                      ADD TO THAT THE ATHLETE BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT AND ALSO THAT 18 HOURS MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE THE LIMIT FOR DETECTION, AND YOU ARE DONE. HOW ABOUT THIS SINCE YOU LIKE STUDIES:

                      Six injections of 50 IU/kg bw (boostingdosage) of epoetin beta (Neorecormon, Roche Diagnos-tics, Hvidovre, Denmark) were performed intravenously during a 3-week period, followed by two microinjections of only 10 IU/kg bw.

                      Blood and urine samples were collected 2, 6, 12, and 72 h after the microinjection, as well as72 h after the last boosting dose. Sensitivities and specificities of the MAIIA test were examined by absolute and passport thresholds. Sensitivity was 100% for at least12 h after the microinjection, with ~30% of plasma samples still exceeding the 99.9% passport threshold 72 h after a microinjection. The specificity was higher for the passport approach compared to the absolute approach, but there were no differences in sensitivities between approaches or between specimens (urine and plasma). We conclude that the MAIIA test shows potential for detect-ing very small doses of rhEPO.

                      Using this “proto-type” threshold, it was evident that the method was able to detect two out of nine subjects 72–96 h after theinjection. In an alternative approach, the passport approach, these population statistics are mixed with the athlete’s own previous sample results. As more and more samples are obtained from the individual, the threshold adapts toward the athlete’s own results by giving more and more weight to the athlete’s own sample results at the expense of the population statistics. When the threshold was based on this biological passport approach, the sensitivity was increased to five out of six subjects. From these findings, it was concluded that the method might compliment existing detection methods.
                      So when you add in the ABP, now he would have to worry about 72-96 hours. You gonna explain this conspiracy theory for us again, because this shlt is not looking good for you!

                      BOOM
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