Who has a better resume, Sugar Ray Leonard or Floyd Mayweather?

[robertzimmerman]

This isnt even close. Leonards best wins are vs prime ATGs. he won a welter and middleweight title from the ring champ.

Floyd never beat one ATG in his prime .
Floyds biggest wins were vs popular names
Who were old , past it, small and drained,green
Along with vastly overated fighters.
Floyds best win is vs maidana in fight 2. He was a peak version of a very solid fighter who I would say was B level.

Cotto was fair fight anf a solid win but he wasnt the same guy he was before margarito.margo took some life out of cotto.
Hatton was small
Corrales was drained and out of his mind
Canelo was very green and popular
Oscar was old and part time
Pac was old and very shop worn and iced
Gatti was small overated and popular
Shane was old and overated at that point
Ghost was very overated and sucks azz
Baldomir was a joke
Berto was a joke
Zab was overated
ortiz was a prime headcase. C level fighter with no heart

Marquez was small and old .he just had pacs number .

Manfredy was average

In reality floyds resume is overated.there were less lopular names that were better fighters that he decided not to fight.

This is just keeping it real


Floyd was taller than most his opponents and ha dc longer arms as well. Most , not all. I just cant see floyd last 12 rounds vs hearns or hagler to add the cherry on top. Imagine floyd had no youtube to go off to study his opponents. Floyd vs emanuel steward . Nahhh.

Were you aware that Floyd only had short, stubby arms?

Ha!

[Reloaded]

Can you imagine the combinations Leonard would land on Floyd?

I can imagine he would miss more than he ever has .

Do you people realize that Floyd came from 130 and fought at WW because thats where the money was he could have stayed at 135-140 his entire career if he chose to do so.

Do you realize that Ray had 40 bouts , 6 great name fighters on his resume and he beat 4 and lost to 2 .

That 34 of his opponents were average,

A resume is a body of work, it cannot be build around 2 or 3 opponents the entire body of work must be analyzed fight for fight.

[MurkaMan]

Okay chief.

Have it your way.

I'm not prepared to waste anymore of my time on you.

None of this comment replied to a SINGLE THING I said. And LOL @ "Floyd is famed for having long arms"

This isnt even true not even a little bit Lol

He doesnt have long arms. And maybe its your OPINION that his arms are long. But they arent even close to the length of his opponent's arms. Which was my point.

You up here looking silly af, I cant!! Lol

[MurkaMan]

Were you aware that Floyd only had short, stubby arms?

Ha!

You can run and look for as much help as you want, but it wont mean anything! I can reply to as many fools as you need to help you Lol

Its easy af, when your speaking simple facts.

[MurkaMan]

Can you imagine the combinations Leonard would land on Floyd?

HAHAHA!!!! No one lands combinations on Floyd. I look at the Floyd SR fight, and imagine all the beautiful counters Floyd would let off.

That fight is a mismatch in favor of Floyd, simply because they are the same fighter. Floyd is the pureboxer that SRL wants to be. But everything SRL does, Floyd is an expert at. I see SRL trying to outbox Floyd, and everytime he gets countered he would stop in his place. His only way of winning is to come forward like a wild brawler, and he would never do that.

He would try to outMayweather, Mayweather. Its unfair to SRL, to compare him to an ATG from the future, when Floyd grew up studying everything SRL did wrong.

Look at how SRL used to imitate Ali and SRR. Imagine him growing up watching Floyd Jr. He would be the next Adrien Broner. Trying to shoulder roll. This is 100% exactly what would happen if he grew up watching Floyd.

[Jc8804]

I can imagine he would miss more than he ever has .

Do you people realize that Floyd came from 130 and fought at WW because thats where the money was he could have stayed at 135-140 his entire career if he chose to do so.

Do you realize that Ray had 40 bouts , 6 great name fighters on his resume and he beat 4 and lost to 2 .

That 34 of his opponents were average,

A resume is a body of work, it cannot be build around 2 or 3 opponents the entire body of work must be analyzed fight for fight.

You are crazy. Media and social media of the 2000s hypes up fighters to a higher degree than the 70s and 80s just having newspapers ,no youtube and no cell phones.
Leonard beat ATG hall of famers in their primes. Floyd cant ever say he beat 1 ATG in their prime .not 1.

He came off a huge layoff and move up and went after p4p hagler. Floyd would never do something that. Guys like leonard and roy jones are on another level. Those guys beat real 50 50 threats that are ATGs in their primes . Floyd never did that once.

You got caught in all that media hype and bit the bait floyd had dangling on the hook man.

You can compare hagler to a part time oscar or post margarito cotto or a green AF canelo coming off a controversial texas victory over trout and bearing josesito lopez and alfonzo gomez (two 140 pounders at 154) .

You cant compare division rivals benitez duran hearns to a shot pac old shane and headcase like ortiz.

You are getting caught up in hyped up fighters who are really c level and are popular mistaking it for very good and great . Floyd never beat a true ATG in his prime .not 1

[djtmal]

HAHAHA!!!! No one lands combinations on Floyd. I look at the Floyd SR fight, and imagine all the beautiful counters Floyd would let off.

That fight is a mismatch in favor of Floyd, simply because they are the same fighter. Floyd is the pureboxer that SRL wants to be. But everything SRL does, Floyd is an expert at. I see SRL trying to outbox Floyd, and everytime he gets countered he would stop in his place. His only way of winning is to come forward like a wild brawler, and he would never do that.

He would try to outMayweather, Mayweather. Its unfair to SRL, to compare him to an ATG from the future, when Floyd grew up studying everything SRL did wrong.

Look at how SRL used to imitate Ali and SRR. Imagine him growing up watching Floyd Jr. He would be the next Adrien Broner. Trying to shoulder roll. This is 100% exactly what would happen if he grew up watching Floyd.

He would try to outMayweather Mayweather? da f**k is you smoking. LMAO. Sugar Ray, was just as god gifted as Floyd. If he wanted to be a defensive minded fighter who sold fights with his mouth, but the fight itself was "sweet science," he was certainly capable of doing that, but Sugar Ray, who was the 80's cash cow, just didn't have to sell fights too much with braggadocio, because he was as entertaining as he was deadly in the ring.

and this is some of the funniest s**t I ever read.
Yes, nobody from THIS era landed combinations on Floyd, but if you think nobody from any era could land combinations on Floyd, you got some more homework to do because a prime srl, landed some of the most amazingly accurate combinations with power, @ ww, you ever wanted to see, yeah you saw the shuffle like ali, but you saw the shuffle when he landed a punch that stunned his opponent, then a 6 or 7 punch combination followed, that put fighters on their backs for the ten count, amateur to the pro ranks, well respected champs, including a prime, top ten atg ww in Tommy Hearns, who was outboxing Sugar all fight.

Not even talking prime, but how many natural welterweights has Floyd come close to knocking out just on sheer power? Ricky Hatton, was a natural junior ww, that Floyd ko'd with a good timed left hook, Sharmba? a natural junior ww that Floyd timed with a body shot. Ortiz? a unfocused, not too smart ww that Floyd needed two free shots to drop...

So what does that say? Floyd Mayweather Jr., would have nothing, absolutely nothing, to keep a killer like Ray Leonard, off of him. You do your homework right, and you'll see Sugar Ray threw combinations at 2X the speed than Floyd @ ww, even when Floyd was closer to his prime. Floyd never fought an offensive technician on the level of Sugar Man in his life. Furthermore, even if Floyd had some success, potshotting and outsmarting Sugar Ray, Sugar Ray, had Angelo Dundee in his corner, and do you think, or can you imagine, Angelo Dundee watching Floyd potshot Ray for 6 or 7 rounds and let the fight stay there, naw, he's gonna tell Ray he's blowing it, and Ray is gonna turn up the heat the same way he did to Hearns. Floyd's opponents, they are content with letting the fight go the way its going if they are losing. That has never been in Sugar Ray's, d n a., and it would be another case of the great big man, beating the great little man, cause you Floyd boys love to say, he's a small welterweight.

Floyd, is a great fighter, no question, but you Floyd boys have a way of overexaggerating s**t that is above and beyond.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Sugar and tbh it's not close..

[Rome-By-Ko]

HAHAHA!!!! No one lands combinations on Floyd. I look at the Floyd SR fight, and imagine all the beautiful counters Floyd would let off.

That fight is a mismatch in favor of Floyd, simply because they are the same fighter. Floyd is the pureboxer that SRL wants to be. But everything SRL does, Floyd is an expert at. I see SRL trying to outbox Floyd, and everytime he gets countered he would stop in his place. His only way of winning is to come forward like a wild brawler, and he would never do that.

He would try to outMayweather, Mayweather. Its unfair to SRL, to compare him to an ATG from the future, when Floyd grew up studying everything SRL did wrong.

Look at how SRL used to imitate Ali and SRR. Imagine him growing up watching Floyd Jr. He would be the next Adrien Broner. Trying to shoulder roll. This is 100% exactly what would happen if he grew up watching Floyd.

Sugar would have landed combination on Floyd..Bottom line..

[KayDub]

To me this is actually a really tough question. Leonard was the Mayweather of his era, he was the money man, and he also liked to pick and choose fights.

The only edge I can give Leonard is that he faced a prime Duran and Hearns... but he lost to Duran when he faced him at his peak.

I'd honestly give it to Floyd though. He didn't always face opponents when he should've but you can' t look at his record and not be impressed. I just wish the Pacquiao fight would've happened in 2009. If that fight happened then with the same results as it had in 2015 I would by far rank Mayweather higher than Leonard.