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  • robertzimmerman
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    #71
    Originally posted by mlac
    i.....i can't.

    i refuse to believe people are that dumb. im just gonna carry on pretending he's trolling.
    Let's hope he is.


    Were you aware that Carl Froch is the modern Dempsey?

    Ha!

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    • VG_Addict
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      #72
      Originally posted by Kigali


      You mean to big and slow to not get KTFO.

      How are they stronger??
      They can't take any punishment.

      A jab wobbles them

      Skills....

      What skills are you taking about???

      You don't know
      Slow? Dempsey may have been fast for his time, but he'd be considered slow today.

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        #73
        Originally posted by mlac
        i.....i can't.

        i refuse to believe people are that dumb. im just gonna carry on pretending he's trolling.
        I like that stating a differing opinion has become "trolling" now.

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        • Kigali
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          #74
          Originally posted by VG_Addict
          Slow? Dempsey may have been fast for his time, but he'd be considered slow today.
          Who's faster than Dempsey???????????

          Nobody

          Who's BOBBING AND WEAVING their way inside?????

          Nobody

          Who's gonna make him look slow....????

          Nobody

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            #75
            Originally posted by robertzimmerman
            No he wouldn't.

            Stop talking nonsense.

            He was 6'1, with a 77" reach, weighing just under 200 pounds.

            Marco Huck is about the same size.

            Denis Lebedev is smaller than Dempsey, but moved to CW.

            Neither of those guys had Dempsey's physique.
            Huck 210

            Dempsey 187 (vs willard)
            Kovalev 188
            Hopkins 182
            Pascal 185

            On par with modern LHWs.

            Perhaps as he aged he would have stopped cutting and fought at cruiser.

            Not a chance of heavy.

            Often wish we would drop division names and jsut call them by their numbers, if nothing else then to stop these marciano/dempsey/louis VS klitschko/valuev/lewis type threads.

            HW division was a completely different division back then. guys like willard were freaks, not the norm.
            Last edited by ////; 01-15-2017, 07:12 PM.

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            • Larry the boss
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              #76
              How good was he really?? he literally refused to fight certain fighters

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                #77
                Originally posted by larry x..
                How good was he really?? he literally refused to fight certain fighters
                He was good enough to beat the guys Ross Purrity and Lamon Brewster beat.

                He was good enough to beat the guys Chris Byrd beat.

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                • robertzimmerman
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by VG_Addict
                  Slow? Dempsey may have been fast for his time, but he'd be considered slow today.
                  Ha!

                  Why?

                  Have the laws of physics changed?

                  How many of today's top 15 HW's are as fast as what Jack was?

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                    Just stop.

                    Carl walking around at that weight is fat and out of shape.

                    Jack was in peak condition weighing just under 200 pounds.

                    You don't know anything.

                    You think Jack didn't also walk around above 200 pounds when he wasn't fighting?

                    "Froch is basically the modern Dempsey" ?

                    What the hell has happened to this forum?
                    Do you know why people cut weight in sports?

                    Froch is almost completely identical to Dempsey, height-weight. Even in style. Albeit Froch is there to be hit and isn't as refined as Dempsey but they are in all actuality quite similar.

                    Froch being 6'1", 75in reach, and weighing damn near the same if not, then more than Dempsey could compete at HW just like Dempsey. But he does not.

                    Why is that?

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                    • VG_Addict
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                      Ha!

                      Why?

                      Have the laws of physics changed?

                      How many of today's top 15 HW's are as fast as what Jack was?
                      I know you're slow, so I'll explain it to you: People are faster today than they were in Dempsey's time.

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