Jack Dempsey vs Today's Heavyweights

[robertzimmerman]

He'd do about as well as Kovalev at HW, perhaps worse. Their dimensions are almost identical.

Kovalev's significantly more well schooled however.

He had a speed advantage over Kovalev, and a style to get inside of bigger guys.

I'm sure he could also hit harder, and he had a bigger reach.

I don't see how Kovalev would do better as a HW.

[Kigali]

Dempsey is a Middleweight by today's standards.

He's statistically Carl Froch. Height-reach and likely weight (Froch cuts weight).

[mlac]

Dempsey was outboxed comfortably by a 6ft 190lb 76in reach gene tunney.

Firstly we're talking a past prime Dempsey at the end of his career

Secondly A past prime Dempsey still Knocked Tunney Out (who he himself is an ATG)

[Kigali]

"Boxers are bigger, faster, stronger and wayyyyy better fundamentally than those previous to us"???.................

Really? Wilder and the Klitz bros are better technically than Joe Louis? You must be on drugs?
Secondly who compares to Sugar Ray Robinson in the skills department? Who is as mean and determined as he was?
Why is Sugar the most copied boxer of all time? Ezzard Charles Ali, Ray Leonard all tried to copy Robinson. I wonder why?

In the past boxing had multiple men who brought intrigue and substance to the ring, today there are very few great fighters.
Last night was a good competitive fight to watch, neither man made anything near what Pac & lil" Floyd made yet they put those to so-called "greats" to shame!
Being great today is mostly hype and it's sold to fans that rarely if ever attend a live boxing show. They have no reality as to what the sport is all about. Watching tv is not the way to watch boxing, the same can be said about all contact sports.
Watch hockey in person then on tv you'll be disappointed in the coverage!

nite kids
Ray

[FinitoxDinamita]

Oh dear.

Do you need reminding of today's top 15 guys?

Dempsey wouldnt be a HW today, that is the thing.. he is outsized and outgunned.

Lower level guys like Amir Mansour and even Hughie fury would absolutely murder dempsey..

[robertzimmerman]

He would be too small for cruiser. There are no cruisers who weigh 187 lbs on fight night. That's LHW.

No he wouldn't.

Stop talking nonsense.

He was 6'1, with a 77" reach, weighing just under 200 pounds.

Marco Huck is about the same size.

Denis Lebedev is smaller than Dempsey, but moved to CW.

Neither of those guys had Dempsey's physique.

[LoadedWraps]

Where would he rank?

Right below Tyson Fury - #2 in the world.

[robertzimmerman]

Dempsey is a Middleweight by today's standards.

He's statistically Carl Froch. Height-reach and likely weight (Froch cuts weight).

Don't be ridiculous.

[robertzimmerman]

Dempsey wouldnt be a HW today, that is the thing.. he is outsized and outgunned.

Lower level guys like Amir Mansour and even Hughie fury would absolutely murder dempsey..

Shut up you clown.

Mansour and Hughie have beaten who exactly?

Outgunned?

Go and look at today's top 15.

In fact, don't even bother replying.

[LoadedWraps]

The only thing that was funny about my post was the Amir reference but Boxers from this era would obliterate those from the past in all seriousness. So how has Boxing regressed if Boxers are bigger, faster, stronger and wayyyyy better fundamentally than those previous to us???

But they aren't.

The only "progress" that's been made is in science and nutrition. And sure, that gives us "stronger, faster, bigger", but it doesn't address the fact that boxing, from an education/training standpoint, is waaaaaaaaay shrunken and watered down from the rich golden era of boxing where you had a deep pool of talent and wise minds everywhere. Boxers fundamentally today are embarrassingly behind all other previous eras, not just in HW but across the board.

We've been over this dude. This isn't the NFL, or NBA. Boxing is regressing, and the only thing that will stop that is if it reaches the level that it had in the golden ages, because you need a deep pool to make advancements and create/stimulate the level of competition needed as a catalyst.