Comments Thread For: Roach: If We're Gonna Stay in Boxing, Manny Must Fight Crawford!

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  • Bronx2245
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    #11
    Originally posted by JoeMan
    Problem is Arum can't even talk to Crawford's trainer/manager. He's a tough talking thug who disrespects anyone he doesn't trust. You've seen him in videos and I don't think he would just say yes to anything Arum offers.
    However, isn't it an awful thing to lie, and say that "the guy wants $7 million," "the guy is trying to price himself out of the fight, etc." when the guy was NOT presented any offer to fight Pacquiao! Why must Crawford's credibility be destroyed to enhance Pacquiao's credibility?

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    • al-Xander
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      #12
      Originally posted by Bronx2245
      However, isn't it an awful thing to lie, and say that "the guy wants $7 million," "the guy is trying to price himself out of the fight, etc." when the guy was NOT presented any offer to fight Pacquiao! Why must Crawford's credibility be destroyed to enhance Pacquiao's credibility?
      How do you even know Arum is telling the truth? You don't find it strange that one of Arum's future stars is left out in the Pacquiao stakes? The guy who could potentially hand over the torch? Tell me if that makes sense.

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      • Bronx2245
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        #13
        Originally posted by JoeMan
        How do you even know Arum is telling the truth? You don't find it strange that one of Arum's future stars is left out in the Pacquiao stakes? The guy who could potentially hand over the torch? Tell me if that makes sense.
        So you think Arum and Crawford are lying, but Roach is telling the truth?

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        • HURTFEELINGS
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          #14
          Originally posted by JoeMan
          Problem is Arum can't even talk to Crawford's trainer/manager. He's a tough talking thug who disrespects anyone he doesn't trust. You've seen him in videos and I don't think he would just say yes to anything Arum offers.
          The real problem is you live in a made-up world. We know what you mean by "thug" but the fact is that Crawford has been fighting for Arum so obviously this makes your statement a lie, because he obviously has said YES to arum a few times for us to have seen bud fight under TOP RANK. So what is your REAL motive to say some bs like that? hmmmm This is your excuse for pac DUCKING CRAWFORD. Lets make this CLEAR: ROACH SAYS THEY NEED THIS FIGHT, ARUM WANTS THIS FIGHT, CRAWFORD WANTS THIS FIGHT.....EVERYONE BUT PAC WANTS THIS FIGHT who's missing in this equation? MANNY! MANNY DOESNT WANT THAT WORK, he picked Bradley over crawford, he picked Vargas over crawford, he picked ??Horn?? over a fight with Crawford. Manny has been Ducking Crawford for a long time. Manny is a scared old little man.

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          • Bronx2245
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            #15
            Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS
            The real problem is you live in a made-up world. We know what you mean by "thug" but the fact is that Crawford has been fighting for Arum so obviously this makes your statement a lie, because he obviously has said YES to arum a few times for us to have seen bud fight under TOP RANK. So what is your REAL motive to say some bs like that? hmmmm This is your excuse for pac DUCKING CRAWFORD. Lets make this CLEAR: ROACH SAYS THEY NEED THIS FIGHT, ARUM WANTS THIS FIGHT, CRAWFORD WANTS THIS FIGHT.....EVERYONE BUT PAC WANTS THIS FIGHT who's missing in this equation? MANNY! MANNY DOESNT WANT THAT WORK, he picked Bradley over crawford, he picked Vargas over crawford, he picked ??Horn?? over a fight with Crawford. Manny has been Ducking Crawford for a long time. Manny is a scared old little man.
            I wouldn't be mad at Manny for not wanting to fight Crawford at this point in his career, just like I'm not mad at Floyd for not wanting to fight GGG. I'm just pissed that someone at Top Rank is trying to discredit Crawford to make it appear that it is he who is ducking Pacquiao! Why is that necessary? Same when we had the "fake contract" scandal with Mayweather. It could be easier to say "we are still under negotiations" rather than say "Floyd is scare to sign the contract." This pattern needs to stop immediately!

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            • hitking
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              #16
              What does Manny Pacquiao have in common with pretty much everybody else in the world?

              He has no f.uck'n clue who GGG is.

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              • hitking
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                #17
                Originally posted by Bronx2245
                I wouldn't be mad at Manny for not wanting to fight Crawford at this point in his career, just like I'm not mad at Floyd for not wanting to fight GGG. I'm just pissed that someone at Top Rank is trying to discredit Crawford to make it appear that it is he who is ducking Pacquiao! Why is that necessary? Same when we had the "fake contract" scandal with Mayweather. It could be easier to say "we are still under negotiations" rather than say "Floyd is scare to sign the contract." This pattern needs to stop immediately!
                I think Floyd not wanting to fight GGG is totally different from Manny not wanting Crawford. Floyd is a welterweight not wanting to fight a middleweight. Manny is a welterweight, who claims he's a jr welterweight. Not wanting to fight a jr welterweight. Plus, Floyd made it pretty clear after the Manny fight that he wasn't interested in fighting anymore. The Berto fight was nothing more than fulfilling a contractual obligation. Manny is basically trying to bull**** into buying ****ty matchups under the illusion that he still has an interest in fighting top level competition. What Manny is doing is almost as bad as Floyd coming out and fighting Connor McGregor.

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                • Bronx2245
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by hitking
                  I think Floyd not wanting to fight GGG is totally different from Manny not wanting Crawford. Floyd is a welterweight not wanting to fight a middleweight. Manny is a welterweight, who claims he's a jr welterweight. Not wanting to fight a jr welterweight. Plus, Floyd made it pretty clear after the Manny fight that he wasn't interested in fighting anymore. The Berto fight was nothing more than fulfilling a contractual obligation. Manny is basically trying to bull**** into buying ****ty matchups under the illusion that he still has an interest in fighting top level competition. What Manny is doing is almost as bad as Floyd coming out and fighting Connor McGregor.
                  We all know what Manny is doing. I'm just saying that there are others ways he could do it, without making Crawford the villain! He could say that he wants his last fights to be international fights like Horn and Khan. The statements coming from Team Pacquiao, as usual, creates as many haters, as it does fans! "I want to fight in Australia!" That's cool! "I'm fighting Jeff Horn because Crawford is pricing himself out of the fight!" Not Cool!

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                  • Mr. Luthor
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                    #19
                    I don't think Manny is scared of Crawford. Manny has lost before and is prepared to lose again......for the right price of $20 million guaranteed plus PPV percentage.
                    This situation is not that complex if you aren't biased. Roach talking about how much money Crawford wants is hilariously ******. Absolutely no reason to believe a trainer in regards to the financials of a boxer that he isn't even affiliated with. That's laughable. In this potential match, the only money that has been credibly broadcast is Pacquiao's "advisor", Koncz, being on record saying $20 million guaranteed. Now do the math, Pacquiao's purse for Vargas was $4 million but he wants 5 times that much to face a Jr Welterweight at 147. Hmmmmm????
                    Crawford has no reason to accept the $2.8 million purse that Vargas accepted because Team Pacquiao (and HBO) just told him he's worth more than Vargas.

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                      #20
                      What a way a Crawford win would be to cap his career.

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