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Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
Anything else, I ain't watching.
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LOL-Freddie sayin Crawford wants too much money???!!! Last time I checked he wasn't asking for $20,000,000 because he viewed his opponent as a threat.
Instead, Pac wants Burns or Horn....two guys who aren't going to be competitive.It speaks volumes about where Pac feels he is at and where his confidence is against these opponents...but wait-is he asking for $20,000,000 for Burns or Horn since Pac-turds wanna say it's his usual fee???????
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostThen fight a WW, he wants little guys to move up yet he wont fight a legit WW.
Manny always playing the weight game, always saying he is not a WW yet he refuses to leave the division for 140 guys at 140, and he dont fight WWs, its a shoeshine.
Thurman Spence Brook are very tuff fights for him, these guys are fully fledged WWs and that make a very big difference .
I agree Manny has proved himself time and time and can fight whom he wants, but keep it real as to what he wants.
and you say Manny wants "little guys" to move up, assuming you're referring to Crawford..if those two ever fight, either at 140 or 147, Bud will be the heavier guy on fight night, guaranteed.
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Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View PostYou owned yourself ******, but you do that regularly, you've been exposed as having double standards many times.
"Exposed" lmao get over yourself you pathetic little man child.
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Originally posted by DeLorean View PostBradley and Vargas aren't "legit" welterweights? Timothy Bradley is more accomplished than Thurman, Brook, Spence, Porter, Crawford and Broner.. Timmy would be the best name on all those guys resumes.
and you say Manny wants "little guys" to move up, assuming you're referring to Crawford..if those two ever fight, either at 140 or 147, Bud will be the heavier guy on fight night, guaranteed.
More accomplished fighting a round robin with Manny JMM Rios Algieri Prodnikov and Vargas , not a full fledged WW between them, you got 2 sets of WW the little guys like above and the bigger guys like Spence Thurman Porter Brook, first crossing of this path for a long time will be Garcia vs Thurman .
My point is this Manny will not fight an A grade full blown WW, he will fight C grade WW like Horn but not A grades like Brook Thurman or Spence, he will fight A grade JWWs but at the WW limit if you pay him enough.
Its a shoeshine if you look at the big picture and dissect where theses guys all come from weight wise, a full blown WW cannot ever make 135-140 .
Short guys that came from lower weights dont grow into a full WW they just bulk up because they dont have the frame, Tims resume is chock full of LWs and JWWs not WWs .
Regarding TC Im saying quit talking about being little Manny just fight at 140, why bring him up if 140 is Mannys best weight, because its not about that its about matchmaking and advantages just like Roach said WW might slow TC down.
At the top in pro boxing they all do it and Im not ragging on Manny for doing it, Im just keeping it real in whats going on with Manny weight and match making.
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Originally posted by Strategic1 View PostThat's fine...except Garcia vs Thurman isn't for #1. Danny has done nothing at the weight. ...and Thurman only has Porter as a legit win. Porter has never really been a top 5 welter.
Pacquiao even at this old age is still the best welterweight out there (after Floyd's retirement). Until other welters start consistently facing better competition...but if you notice he is kinda being left out of all of the P4P Rankings because I think he is at the point in his career in which he is above those Rankings. Now it is just a matter of making as much money as he can while he can IMO, nothing left the Prove, nobody currently fighting can help him improve his legacy and if he lose to any of these guys it can't hurt him because he is not Past His Prime.
But the Sport is moving on without him and yes that includes the Welterweight Division! That is no disrespect to Pacquiao he is Legend but he had is time, if he wants to fight these young guys then that only makes the Division even better, if not then it will be fun watching these young guys fight to see who is the next king at Welterweight starting with Garcia vs Thurman
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