You enter the ring alone with no guarantee of leaving the same , yet so many people who are not risking their lives have their hands in that fighters pocket.I can understand paying your trainer,cutman,sparring partners, manager and promoter...but damn you have to also pay the sanctioning bodies???It is ridiculous
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Why do so many people get paid off of one person who risks his life in the ring?
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Originally posted by larry x.. View PostYou enter the ring alone with no guarantee of leaving the same , yet so many people who are not risking their lives have their hands in that fighters pocket.I can understand paying your trainer,cutman,sparring partners, manager and promoter...but damn you have to also pay the sanctioning bodies???It is ridiculous
At it's most basic, boxing is basically a street fight; prizefighting elevates that to a point where folks can feed their families.
The sanctioning body, at it's root, should act as a quasi-clearinghouse for prizefighting; establish a common set of rules for the fight to be contested under, evaluate and rate the quality of the fighters fighting in an objective way, have procedures in place to foster clarity/fairness in the fight, etc.
Basically turning a street fight into a legitimate prizefight.
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This stems back over a century because boxing has always been corrupt and fighters have always been getting screwed out their money, most arnt the smartest buisiness men and get taken advantage by promoters and managers. sugar ray Robinson was practically fighting for free after probably the greatest career of all time he ended up broke and nothing to show for it and that's just not right. Look at what don king did for decades practically taking 90% of the purse from most his stable.
Until boxing cuts these greedy promoters out and makes a real league fighters will continue to get stole from that's why haymon tells his guys not to sign with a promoter he's actually looking out in the financial interest of his guys which really hasn't been done in the sport yet that's one thing you can praise him for.
As far as trainers and cut men they deserve a cut usually it's like 10% for the trainer and pocket money for the rest of the team it's the promoter ripping the fighter off.
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Originally posted by larry x.. View PostYou enter the ring alone with no guarantee of leaving the same , yet so many people who are not risking their lives have their hands in that fighters pocket.I can understand paying your trainer,cutman,sparring partners, manager and promoter...but damn you have to also pay the sanctioning bodies???It is ridiculous
Everything's a huslte
Even me now I'm a dad I'm greedy as fxck
I never used to care about money
Now i gotta get everything I can for my family
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Been asking that **** for YEARS! I don't ***ing GET IT! I think it is because they're LIED TO that without those Leeches they can't become Boxing Superstars so they start adding all these people to their teams.
A lot of guys are getting smarter though and they're eliminating those LEECHES which I think is GREAT!
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I actually think the business side of boxing is as clean and transparent as its ever been. Is it perfect? Absolutely not, and it never will be. But it is better, and I think fighters and sports people in general are becoming more educated in the business side of sport. You even have athletes negotiating their own contracts with only a lawyer, which was unheard of in the past.
Unfortunately it always takes cautionary tales to help improve any situation - and fighters of the past who were taken advantage of have helped the guys of today to avoid similar pitfalls.
As someone said promoters, trainers, etc. are necessary to help promote big events and get fighters ready, but maybe in the future the situation will improve further. Maybe as fighters become more powerful and look into sanctioning bodies, they won't be so necessary, or people will detail what they actually bring to the table, and what that service should cost.
But its only the athletes themselves who can make the most amount of difference, they are the one's who can stand up and say, "Hey I'm not going to pay that ****". Other people like you and me obviously care, but it will be the athletes who can make a difference, or someone with the knowledge and knowhow, acting in their best interest.
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Originally posted by sicko View PostBeen asking that **** for YEARS! I don't ***ing GET IT! I think it is because they're LIED TO that without those Leeches they can't become Boxing Superstars so they start adding all these people to their teams.
A lot of guys are getting smarter though and they're eliminating those LEECHES which I think is GREAT!
the alphabets wouldn't be around if they didn't generate revenue. it's a heck of a lot easier to promote LW x against LW Y if you can call the fight a world championship. particularly in teh advent of teh casino era, a lot of the people in the building don't know much abot boxing or that the "championship" being defended is actually a scam. alphabets allow there to be up to a dozen fights or more each year for the "championship fo the wrodl." it's great for marketing those fights.
would the sport evolve and generate more net revvie if they stopped letting these bogus orgs crown bogus champs? maybe. buyt so far the powers in boxing have allowed these organizations to exists and established relationships with them because it generates money.
money money money money
monnnnayyy
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Originally posted by larry x.. View PostYou enter the ring alone with no guarantee of leaving the same , yet so many people who are not risking their lives have their hands in that fighters pocket.I can understand paying your trainer,cutman,sparring partners, manager and promoter...but damn you have to also pay the sanctioning bodies???It is ridiculous
I swear some of you guys pretend you don't understand the world around and think everything is unfair. Nothing is unfair about mutual agreement.
If a fighter wants to carry an entourage of friends with him then that's his choice and money. If he wants to trade his hard earned money for friendship then so be it.
These adults aren't forced to pay anyone they don't choose to pay. So to give you the obvious answer to your question, because the fighter decides what he wants to spend his money on.
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There was a time where a large proportion of boxers were effectively mules. The system and hierarchy was established to where promoters, managers, trainers etc took the cream off the person who did their bidding inside the ring. Boxers were (and still are) an investment - you put money into them, with the expectation of getting a return on that investment.
It's incredibly hard, and nigh on impossible, to change a system that dates back multiple generations.
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