Comments Thread For: Barrera: Kovalev Beat Ward 8-4 or 7-5, Ward is Dirty Fighter

[SugarRaRobinson]

How dirty of Ward to block the jab and counter with the same hand.

Why doesn't he get disqualified for that?

I was wondering the same thing.
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[Boxing Logic]

Round 10 is either a draw of for Ward. No rationale for giving it to Kovalev. Ward had the best shot of the round (1:08) and a higher connect rate. No logic in giving the round to Kovalev unless you think coming forward missing shots should be rewarded.

Gave the 3rd to Kovalev because Ward didn't do much. 12th is a clear Ward round, even some of the biggest Kovalev fans will admit it. All the rest is pretty much clear cut.

Boxing isn't scored on connect %, it's scored on landed punches and damage. Try again. 10 was Kovalev. As for 12, Ward actually outlanded Kovalev in that round, but he got hit with a body shot that made his legs go weak, his face grimace, and made him retreat to the ropes and hold.

So I mean, it's professional boxing. Ward connected a few more shots in round 12, not that many but a few more, but he got hurt. Who would you rather be? Would you rather have to eat a few more Ward jabs and inside shots, or would you rather have to take a Kovalev body shot to the liver?

Round 11, 9, 5, and 3 could also go either way too. In 3 neither did anything the first half then Kovalev turned it on late. Kovalev hurt Ward in the 11th with a straight right as well so again, if you count Ward's low blows as punches and all that, maybe you can find two more punches that Ward landed over Kovalev that round, but whose punches did the damage? When a round is that close you have to give it to the guy coming forward hurting his opponent.

[KingHippo]

Boxing isn't scored on connect %, it's scored on landed punches and damage. Try again. 10 was Kovalev. As for 12, Ward actually outlanded Kovalev in that round, but he got hit with a body shot that made his legs go weak, his face grimace, and made him retreat to the ropes and hold.

So I mean, it's professional boxing. Ward connected a few more shots in round 12, not that many but a few more, but he got hurt. Who would you rather be? Would you rather have to eat a few more Ward jabs and inside shots, or would you rather have to take a Kovalev body shot to the liver?

Round 11, 9, 5, and 3 could also go either way too. In 3 neither did anything the first half then Kovalev turned it on late. Kovalev hurt Ward in the 11th with a straight right as well so again, if you count Ward's low blows as punches and all that, maybe you can find two more punches that Ward landed over Kovalev that round, but whose punches did the damage? When a round is that close you have to give it to the guy coming forward hurting his opponent.

Connect rate is directly related to EFFECTIVE aggression, something some of you confuse with plodding around the ring missing shots with no lateral movement whatsoever. Show me what hit in the 10th was more damaging than Ward's hook at 1:08.

If you think 9th could go either way, you're a lost cause. Everything besides the 3rd, 10th and the 12th is clear either way, consistent with punch stats too. Only thing that can cover for your bias is stats, stats don't fit with your dystopian reality, so I have to dismiss your judging as purely biased, therefore useless.

[r1onnie2]

rematch with Ward? fool for what? you got schooled and dropped by a light puncher.

...anyway, what 8 rounds did Kovalev win? this is gonna be fun because I know for a fact he didn't even win 6 rounds. let's have fun..
rd 1: Kov
rd 2: Kov
rd 3: AW
rd 4: Kov
rd 5: AW
rd 6: Kov
rd 7: AW
rd 8: AW
rd 9: AW
rd 10: Kov
rd 11: AW
rd 12: AW

It's funny how dudes lose to Ward and holler he's dirty. I watched that Barrera fight 3 times and didn't see anything Ward did dirty to him but beat the brakes off him.

[BillyBoxing]

you are a jealous idiot. You do know the meaning of the word adjustment, Don't you ? To bad the one dimensional kovalev does' nt or he would've made one instead of getting walked down by a lite punching little fighter that he knocked down. His dumb@ss got out smarted and whooped simple and plain

If somebody got whooped that night, that's Ward.

Nothing about jealousy, just being fair to Kovalev.

[Jrtxboiy]

8-4 is the most realistic coWard had zero effect on Krusher other than making him tired by running away all night.

I dont know what you watched but kov. Did most of the hugging and running

[Lou Cipher]

I dont know what you watched but kov. Did most of the hugging and running

You must have testicles in your eye sockets and eyeballs in your little bean bag.

[Tobi.G]

usually a guy who loses to another will pretend that guy is the best and that he wins every fighter in order to make the loser look better so props for being honest.

This time i have to agree, Sir.

[Boxing Logic]

Connect rate is directly related to EFFECTIVE aggression, something some of you confuse with plodding around the ring missing shots with no lateral movement whatsoever. Show me what hit in the 10th was more damaging than Ward's hook at 1:08.

If you think 9th could go either way, you're a lost cause. Everything besides the 3rd, 10th and the 12th is clear either way, consistent with punch stats too. Only thing that can cover for your bias is stats, stats don't fit with your dystopian reality, so I have to dismiss your judging as purely biased, therefore useless.

Not really man. If I throw 300 punches and outland you 20-10, or I throw 150 punches and outland you 20-10, I still outlanded you 2-to-1. My aggression is still just as effective landing 20 punches either way. Didn't you watch Loma-Walters? Don't you know these eastern european fighters use pawing shots and measuring shots just to set up punches? If Kovalev uses two feint punches to set up a good one, or four feint punches to set up a good one, he's still effectively setting up a good one. But compubox would count that he only landed 1 of 5.

So for you to actually use that just shows you are new to boxing, or at least new to compubox. They count all sorts of punches that aren't even meant to land in their totals. You are using a flawed methodology. But I know why. It's because you are a Ward fan, but literally every meaningful compubox statistic favors Kovalev in their fight. So what you've done is cherry pick the one stat you could find that favored Ward, and then tried to create a new scoring criteria that revolves around this one cherry picked stat.

It's obvious. It's biased. It's lame. Start trying to be fair for a change bro.

[KingHippo]

Not really man. If I throw 300 punches and outland you 20-10, or I throw 150 punches and outland you 20-10, I still outlanded you 2-to-1. My aggression is still just as effective landing 20 punches either way. Didn't you watch Loma-Walters? Don't you know these eastern european fighters use pawing shots and measuring shots just to set up punches? If Kovalev uses two feint punches to set up a good one, or four feint punches to set up a good one, he's still effectively setting up a good one. But compubox would count that he only landed 1 of 5.

So for you to actually use that just shows you are new to boxing, or at least new to compubox. They count all sorts of punches that aren't even meant to land in their totals. You are using a flawed methodology. But I know why. It's because you are a Ward fan, but literally every meaningful compubox statistic favors Kovalev in their fight. So what you've done is cherry pick the one stat you could find that favored Ward, and then tried to create a new scoring criteria that revolves around this one cherry picked stat.

It's obvious. It's biased. It's lame. Start trying to be fair for a change bro.

Kov threw 23 more shots than Ward, only connected 5 more. Easy to see who was more effective.

Me and you are both biased, only difference stats are on my side.