Are Anthony Joshua's handlers progressing him along perfectly?

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    • cupocity303
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      #12
      Wilder and Joshua also seem to have two different approaches and mentalities, as well as their camps.

      Wilder and his Team's mentality is: Great, you mean I have to defend my undefeated record and Title yet again, against somebody? I'd rather just live the TMT lifestyle and enjoy my riches and the toys that come with it. Oh well, we'll do it anyway


      While Joshua's mentality is:

      Who's next? Whyte was pretty exciting. Who do I gotta beat next to keep progressing. Oh? Wladimir Klitschko? The former long time Heavyweight Champ? Lets do it. If I beat him, I might wanna defend my titles against David Haye next, which will be even more exciting.

      One guy wants to win and keep adding on new victories, while the other just doesn't want to lose but rather defend what he already has...which is a undefeated record and a WBC Title.

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      • boliodogs
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        I think Joshua is just a hell of a lot better fighter than Wilder and has faced better opponents overall. Look at the difference in their respective fights with Molina. Wilder needs 9 rounds to KO him and gets hurt by Molina. Joshua destroys Molina in 3 rounds and doesn't get hit with a single decent punch. I think Joshua can beat any heavyweight fighting today.

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        • Tom Cruise
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          I would have liked a Stiverne or a Pulev type on his resume before taking on Wlad but its not too bad a progression.

          Hes making a bit of a jump to go from fighting no 15-25 type guys to fighting Wlad.

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          • -Kev-
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            Wlad will be his first big name, but it's going to be a huge name. It's a big step up. It's like what Hernandez was to Floyd, except Hernandez hadn't lost in 3 years and had good wins over Nelson, Hernandez and Gerena and was lineal champ. But just the jump in name value, it's the same. He's going from Whyte to Klitschko. He is 40 too and close to retirement. Hernandez was 32 and retired after that fight. There's obvious differences, like Foyd being like 21 when he stepped up and Joshua being 27 and Wlad being 40 and Hernandez being 32. But the name value is what i'm getting at.

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            • SplitSecond
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              #16
              Originally posted by Tom Cruise
              I would have liked a Stiverne or a Pulev type on his resume before taking on Wlad but its not too bad a progression.

              Hes making a bit of a jump to go from fighting no 15-25 type guys to fighting Wlad.
              They see Wlad as ready for the taking. If he doesn't jump on him now someone else will take him out. This is a step up and an opportunity to blow up.

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                Originally posted by SplitSecond
                They see Wlad as ready for the taking. If he doesn't jump on him now someone else will take him out. This is a step up and an opportunity to blow up.
                To be fair someone already took Wlad out. Tyson Fury removed any aura of invincibility he might have had.

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                • richardt
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                  Like I've said in the past. There is something VERY WRONG when a guy is 36-0 and a guy that is 18-0 (half the fights!!) has already beaten better comp and that is before fighting Wlad!

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    Not really he has been moved much too quick, even though he is likely to smash Wlad as well. A base needs time to be built up and things coming too quick too soon is pretty much never good long term for a boxer.

                    The only way that sort of thing works out well is if the guy has unreal dedication to the game and it does not seem like Joshua is that sort.

                    In that situation once it comes crashing down there is no stopping it because there was no struggle.

                    A guy like Wilder has fought soft opposition as well but he struggled long and hard over the years for both recognition and respect. That stuff is coming easily to Joshua and will come extra easily after he beats up Wlad. Getting to the top in boxing is just part of the story it is how a guy handles it once he reaches the apex.

                    They should have taken about 2 extra years with Joshua, and there was no rush on them either. A guy like Joshua is blue chip all the way, so you want him to really be able to make some noise once he reaches the apex of the sport no fall off once he reaches the top which is kind of how they are setting him up.
                    Last edited by The Gambler1981; 12-23-2016, 10:57 PM.

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                    • SplitSecond
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      To be fair someone already took Wlad out. Tyson Fury removed any aura of invincibility he might have had.
                      He's got plenty of belief behind him still. People still think Wlad has something in him to show.

                      Wlad is at the tail end of his career where most boxers start racking up the back to back losses before retiring. Joshua shouldn't want to be far down the list or lose his opportunity to beat a Wlad people think still has some fight in him.

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