Comments Thread For: Barclays Exec: Jacobs Will Beat GGG at MSG; Bring Belts to Brooklyn

[killakali]

The purse split only applies to the money listed in the bid, not the event; Oscar De La Hoya paid $100k for N'Dam-Lemieux, yet the actual revenues on the fight were so much that Lemieux ended up getting $1m (with N'Dam only getting the $50k due to him).

It wasn't on Haymon to go to purse bid, and you know it; the date of the bid was set (after the WBA had already given K2 several extensions and even letting their own timeline pass to give K2 (promoter of the top WBA champion) more time to negotiate. With K2 finally under the real clock, as this likely won't be confirmed until the purse disclosures get rumored at, K2 finally paid Jacobs his money, rather than risk the fight going to bid and seeing their whole MSG/HBO March 2017 plan go to ****.

Jacobs-Quillin, if the rumors are true, ended up selling 7,000-8,000 tickets for their fight; hate if you want, but even to this day, no one has any idea how many actual tickets Golovkin sold in New York for the Lemieux fight.

Golovkin has had 5 fights in NYC, four fights at MSG, and two fights in the big room; Daniel Jacobs has clearly demonstrated that he can sell tickets as the headliner for a fight in Brooklyn, NYC.

You add that the fight is almost literally #1 MW vs #2 MW, that both guys are known in NYC/in the NY boxing audience, and that Daniel Jacobs can comfortably be put out front, working the press rows, to draw more press interest in NYC, the fight is quite likely to actually sell out the 18k-seat Barclays Center. With the tickets priced $1000-$100, the gate should be fine.

Daniel Jacobs, in his 33 career fights, has had all of 7 fights in NYC (all of 10 fights on the East Coast); to try and play off Jacobs like he was Gatti or something (Gatti had 30 of his 49 fights in his home state of New Jersey, with all but two of his fights not being on the East Coast) is embarrassing,

u shouldn't play off jacobs like he is Gatti or GGG isn't jacobs for that matter. We know as a fact that he sold roughly twice as many tickets as jacobs vs a b side who didn't sell many tix in Lemieux and also sold more tickets vs rosado. Keep in Mind that Quillin sold some of those 7000-8000 tickets and it was wasn't all Jacobs where GGG basically sold all the tickets vs Lemieux.

As for the purse bid, the purse bid amounts have to be paid before any other money is divided up. If its a 10 mil bid ggg needs to get his 7.5 and 2.5 for jacobs before anything else is divided up. There won't be very much if anything else left to divide up after the first 10 mil payout

[Scipio2009]

u shouldn't play off jacobs like he is Gatti or GGG isn't jacobs for that matter. We know as a fact that he sold roughly twice as many tickets as jacoblings

No, we don't. The tickets sold for the Jacobs-Quillin fight were made public; all we have on the Golovkin-Lemieux gate is Tom Loeffler saying that it did $2m at the gate (and even that rumor is dubious).

Folks have spent years trying to build an image, and folks stop asking the follow-up question, but if you have a source from anyone actually giving a 'tickets sold' figure, share it.

[Scipio2009]

u shouldn't play off jacobs like he is Gatti or GGG isn't jacobs for that matter. We know as a fact that he sold roughly twice as many tickets as jacobs vs a b side who didn't sell many tix in Lemieux and also sold more tickets vs rosado. Keep in Mind that Quillin sold some of those 7000-8000 tickets and it was wasn't all Jacobs where GGG basically sold all the tickets vs Lemieux.

As for the purse bid, the purse bid amounts have to be paid before any other money is divided up. If its a 10 mil bid ggg needs to get his 7.5 and 2.5 for jacobs before anything else is divided up. There won't be very much if anything else left to divide up after the first 10 mil payout

K2 wasn't going to risk $10m on the bid for the fight; after negotiating the fight for over 3 months, it is fairly certain that Haymon/DiBella know what K2 think Jacobs was worth for the fight.

All Haymon/DiBella have to do is top what K2's willing to wager on the fight by $1 (or $50k-$100k, to be sure); if you honestly think that Loeffler was going to bid north of $6m on the fight ($3.5m to Golovkin, $1.5m to Jacobs), after how long the talks have already taken, you're a fool.

[killakali]

K2 wasn't going to risk $10m on the bid for the fight; after negotiating the fight for over 3 months, it is fairly certain that Haymon/DiBella know what K2 think Jacobs was worth for the fight.

All Haymon/DiBella have to do is top what K2's willing to wager on the fight by $1 (or $50k-$100k, to be sure); if you honestly think that Loeffler was going to bid north of $6m on the fight ($3.5m to Golovkin, $1.5m to Jacobs), after how long the talks have already taken, you're a fool.

they would have big 6mil easily. They know even 100k ppv buys gets them back 3mil and the gate its 2mil so throw in merchandising and foreign rights and they can easily break even at a 6mil bid. Bottom line is Haymon didn't want to go to purse bid.

[Scipio2009]

they would have big 6mil easily. They know even 100k ppv buys gets them back 3mil and the gate its 2mil so throw in merchandising and foreign rights and they can easily break even at a 6mil bid. Bottom line is Haymon didn't want to go to purse bid.

And you don't think that Haymon/Dibella didn't do their own math on the fight? lol

Between the gate at Barclays Center, SHOPPV carrying the fight in the US, Sky Sports having likely interest in the UK rights to the fight, the sponsorship opportunities for the event in New York, and the value of the international TV rights (since Golovkin is such an international star), and there's no doubt in my mind that DiBella could comfortably bid $7.5m on the fight and still have things covered.

K2 were the ones who paid up just before the bid, not Haymon; if you honestly think that MSG/HBOPPV would generate more money that Barclays Center/SHOPPV, you're a fool.

[HeroBando]

And you don't think that Haymon/Dibella didn't do their own math on the fight? lol

Between the gate at Barclays Center, SHOPPV carrying the fight in the US, Sky Sports having likely interest in the UK rights to the fight, the sponsorship opportunities for the event in New York, and the value of the international TV rights (since Golovkin is such an international star), and there's no doubt in my mind that DiBella could comfortably bid $7.5m on the fight and still have things covered.

K2 were the ones who paid up just before the bid, not Haymon; if you honestly think that MSG/HBOPPV would generate more money that Barclays Center/SHOPPV, you're a fool.

It wasn't gonna be sho ppv, idiot. Espinoza said it

[killakali]

And you don't think that Haymon/Dibella didn't do their own math on the fight? lol

Between the gate at Barclays Center, SHOPPV carrying the fight in the US, Sky Sports having likely interest in the UK rights to the fight, the sponsorship opportunities for the event in New York, and the value of the international TV rights (since Golovkin is such an international star), and there's no doubt in my mind that DiBella could comfortably bid $7.5m on the fight and still have things covered.

K2 were the ones who paid up just before the bid, not Haymon; if you honestly think that MSG/HBOPPV would generate more money that Barclays Center/SHOPPV, you're a fool.

it would' generate less. If ShoPPV/Barclays would have generated more then Haymon would have went to purse bid and won the bid. That is the fact right there. Case closed. Haymon could have had control with a monster bid but didn't. Good night now

[Scipio2009]

It wasn't gonna be sho ppv, idiot. Espinoza said it

Espinosa said that he'd try to put the fight on Showtime; if you're foolish enough to believe that Espinosa would simply abandon the fight if regular Showtime wasn't viable for the matchup, you're an idiot.

[Scipio2009]

it would' generate less. If ShoPPV/Barclays would have generated more then Haymon would have went to purse bid and won the bid. That is the fact right there. Case closed. Haymon could have had control with a monster bid but didn't. Good night now

Jacobs had a price that he and his camp wanted for the fight; if the price wasn't met, Jacobs and his camp were fully ready to go to purse bid and work to get the money on their own.

With days to go to the purse bid (a bid that K2 has been openly trying to avoid since the fight was initially mandated), K2 paid Jacobs the money he was likely asking for.

not that difficult.

[killakali]

Jacobs had a price that he and his camp wanted for the fight; if the price wasn't met, Jacobs and his camp were fully ready to go to purse bid and work to get the money on their own.

With days to go to the purse bid (a bid that K2 has been openly trying to avoid since the fight was initially mandated), K2 paid Jacobs the money he was likely asking for.

not that difficult.

if haymon wanted to control the event, network, venue, etc they would have won a purse bid. but they couldnt so they didnt. period. point. blank.