Who ranks high? Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez

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  • pacphobia
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    #41
    Originally posted by ramses07
    Marquez is a 4 division champ
    He fought a nobody in Serhiy Fedchenko for the vacant interim WBO and never defended it but still got promoted to full version. Thanks to Paco Valcarcel he became a 4 division champ
    Last edited by pacphobia; 12-21-2016, 10:41 PM. Reason: duplicate

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    • Sugar Adam Ali
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      #42
      Marquez by far... beats morales in every category

      Longevity
      Skills
      Multiple divisions
      Never blown out by manny

      Don't even see how it's debatable

      Fanboys just love morales' exciting style but he was not on Marquez's level

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      • Thraxox
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        #43
        Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
        Idiot the third fight was a robbery and in the first, except the one round, Marquez ripped Pacquiao in the 11 rounds.

        There is not doubt, Marquez won the rivalry vs Pacquiao.




        That cut was not nothing to PAcquiao, ****, man, is PAcquiao, no ****in MAtthysse.With that or not, Morales will be the winner because in that time he was in prime, or in a good condition.

        Erik had all the tools in prime to defeat pacquiao like he did in the first fight.




        That was at the end of Morales, and that situation is a great problem in Mexico, Vargas had the same problem too and was clean.
        WTF are you talking about. Morales fought a just comin in his prime PAcquiao that has only the left hand as his arsenal, he as never yet to develop his right hook. And Morales won that fight for going in with his head like freaking truck and forced Pacquiao to wear pillows.

        And in the second fight the difference was clear, Morales kept on getting tagged by that right hook to the body and head. Morales lost to Pacquiao 2 out of 3 times FACT, with one win was questionable and shady.

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        • Sugar Adam Ali
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          #44
          Originally posted by pacphobia
          He fought a nobody in Serhiy Fedchenko for the vacant interim WBO and never defended it but still got promoted to full version. Thanks to Paco Valcarcel he became a 4 division champ
          At 135 morales was getting beat up by David Diaz n zaheer Raheem

          Marquez at 135 was stopping champs like Juan Diaz, casamoyer and katsidis

          140 neither did anything.. 147 Marquez iced a guy named manny

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          • ramses07
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            #45
            Originally posted by ComicDon
            Featherweight
            Junior Lightweight
            Lightweight

            He hasn't won a title pass these divisions friend. Know your boxing before challenging the Don.
            And wbo light welterweight

            Was a paper title but he got it against serghiy fedchenko in April 2012

            http://boxrec.com/boxer/12222

            Morales did the same thing to get the light welterweight title.

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            • Dinamita 03
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              #46
              Marquez is the greatest modern day Mexican fighter. Never had the support or following of the fans/press yet had the most accomplished career.

              Unlike Morales he never quit in the ring and was the true embodiment of a Mexican warrior. No diva antics either unlike Morales and his glove demands.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                Marquez by far... beats morales in every category

                Longevity
                Skills
                Multiple divisions
                Never blown out by manny

                Don't even see how it's debatable

                Fanboys just love morales' exciting style but he was not on Marquez's level
                Lmao at this nonsense. Morales didn't need four fights to get a single win. Skills? Lmao. Morales was more skilled and consistently fought better fighters.

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                • Sugar Adam Ali
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Face Of Boxing
                  Lmao at this nonsense. Morales didn't need four fights to get a single win. Skills? Lmao. Morales was more skilled and consistently fought better fighters.
                  Fanboy alert!!!!!!


                  Name the better fighters
                  Marquez has
                  Manny 4 times
                  Tim Bradley
                  Casamoyer
                  Katsidis
                  Juan Diaz twice
                  Barrera
                  Chris John
                  Floyd mayweather


                  And who got knocked out multiple times and got beat by David freaking Diaz

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                  • BM dnobagaV
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                    Fanboy alert!!!!!!


                    Name the better fighters
                    Marquez has
                    Manny 4 times
                    Tim Bradley
                    Casamoyer
                    Katsidis
                    Juan Diaz twice
                    Barrera
                    Chris John
                    Floyd mayweather


                    And who got knocked out multiple times and got beat by David freaking Diaz
                    Lost every millisecond to Floyd.
                    Again, didn't win against John boy.
                    Past-it Barrera, but good on him.
                    Diaz, Katsidis, & Casamayor are nice wins, but none are A-level by any stretch of the imagination. Barrera & Manny were.
                    He got beat clearly by Bradley.
                    All he has is Manny four times, and that's because of a styles clash, not his actual credentials. You wouldn't put him on Manny's level, would you?

                    Seriously, go take a look at both of their resumes. You can't tell me that Morales' isn't better?
                    41-0 with wins over McCullough, Jones, Zaragosa, Kelley, Juarez, BARRERA, then 48-2 with more wins over green Pacquiao, Ayala, Hernandez & Chavez unify.

                    PS, longevity? Morales won his first title six year before Marquez, and they each held their last in 2011. Marquez lost to a guy named Freddy... Morales was closer than anything in beating a monster in Maidana to win a belt at 140 with one eye shut...

                    It it because Morales lost both trilogies to Barrera & Manny coupled with Marquez having a KO victory of Manny the reasons you dislike Morales?
                    Would you put Barrera over both?

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                    • Mexican_Puppet
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by pacphobia
                      He fought a nobody in Serhiy Fedchenko for the vacant interim WBO and never defended it but still got promoted to full version. Thanks to Paco Valcarcel he became a 4 division champ
                      Stop crying *****.

                      And you forget that Marquez deserved be champ in 147 but thanks to the robbery in the first fight Pacquiao vs Bradley he never was.

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