Ward and Kov Can Not Be P4P Due To Lack Of Skills...

[MDPopescu]

Wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPhq5KK3Jno

Good vid..............

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So why shouldn't having a good chin be considered a plus on a P4P list?

If you go purely by "skill" then you need to take away things like speed, reflexes and even cardio as well, because those are also genetic gifts.

How would Floyd do as a boxer if he had average speed and reflexes and questionable cardio even if his purely technical skill was top notch?

By your logic Floyd didn't have that good defense either because he relied a lot on his reflexes and athleticism and his quick counters (speed).

Genetic gifts of a fighter are part of the overall package, fighter's skill isn't just part of some vacuum, everyone has certain genetic predispositions whether it's chin, power, speed, reflexes, reach, height, explosiveness etc. and then builds his style of boxing (his boxing skills) around it.

GGG has an iron chin and doesn't need to have as tight defense from a purely technical perspective as Ward but on the other hand he's also slow and often has a big reach disadvantage, he's also not the most explosive fighter either. The reason why he can put his power and iron chin to good use is because of his purely technical skills like timing and cutting the ring off. We had plenty of fighters with good chin and power but they tend to get outboxed as soon as they step up in competition or become shot after too many wars.

exactly.


Chin is a part of defense like power is a part of offense. Chin and power are both genetic. Malignaggi can never be an offensive juggernaut due to his genetic disposition.


you can't have A+ defense if you have a fragile chin like Khan

[BrometheusBob.]

P4P is more a measurement of skill than resume which is why lower weight classes generally do better. pound for pound best.



Ward does not have a right hand. None.

Kovalev can only fight long range. I couldn't believe how he backed off of Ward when he had him cornered and on the ropes numerous times. His power seems to only be in straights.



GGG is number 1.


He has a better hit and not get hit ratio than Ward.

He has both hands.

he has straight shots and hooks.

He can get you out of there long range.

Or he can put a head on your chest against the ropes and take out your body.












He has no losses.

Oh schit.... none? Really?

Incredible.

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Oh schit.... none? Really?

Incredible.

nope there's no controversial to his perfect record.

he also has offensive skills that Ward doesn't have. fact.


he uses both hands while Ward has no right hand.


he has a better hit and not get hit ratio than Ward.


Ward has been dropped multiple times.



GGG > Ward offensively and defensively.