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    #41
    What's the relevance of the random photo of some of floyds belts on his pool table? other tha thats how many belts fit on a pool table

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      #42
      Originally posted by Dr Rumack
      I don't see the logic of this belt hierarchy. The WBA rankings are an absolute joke. Worse than the WBO's. What you're talking bout is the proliferation of belts, i.e. the more there are the worse it is. But once the belts are established they are no worse than any of the rest. To run down the WBO belts gives the other three credit they don't deserve.
      The hierarchy is based on historical significance, lineage, commercial value and reputation among fighters, promoters and networks. If you think a WBO title is as valuable as a WBC title, you're either very young or very naive.

      Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Spinks, Norton, Holmes, Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis, etc all held the WBC heavyweight championship of the world.

      None of them held the WBO title. Just because you invent a belt out of thin air doesn't mean the public and industry are going to give it the same as the other belts.

      The WBO belt is now essentially the Top Rank/HBO title. Haymon has the WBC, WBA and IBF on lockdown, so HBO has been relegated to focusing on the least prestigious title, a belt that a few years ago they wouldn't even acknowledge.

      How times have changed . . .

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        #43
        Originally posted by original zero
        The hierarchy is based on historical significance, lineage, commercial value and reputation among fighters, promoters and networks. If you think a WBO title is as valuable as a WBC title, you're either very young or very naive.

        Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Spinks, Norton, Holmes, Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis, etc all held the WBC heavyweight championship of the world.
        So what though? How does that change the fact that both Linares and Terry Flanagan beat the same number of top 10 fighters to win their belts. None.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Dean_Razorback





          this response killed me




          Sure. That's what the sport needs. Let's drag up another useless trinket...

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            #45
            Originally posted by BoliviaChiLEsp
            WBA Super, WBA regular or both?
            There was no super as I recall. There was the WBA and WBC world champ in a given divison. There was also the NABF and USBA champs which were the equivalent of the Intercontinental /US HWT champ in wrestling.

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              #46
              Originally posted by original zero
              The hierarchy is based on historical significance, lineage, commercial value and reputation among fighters, promoters and networks. If you think a WBO title is as valuable as a WBC title, you're either very young or very naive.

              Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Spinks, Norton, Holmes, Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis, etc all held the WBC heavyweight championship of the world.

              None of them held the WBO title. Just because you invent a belt out of thin air doesn't mean the public and industry are going to give it the same as the other belts.

              The WBO belt is now essentially the Top Rank/HBO title. Haymon has the WBC, WBA and IBF on lockdown, so HBO has been relegated to focusing on the least prestigious title, a belt that a few years ago they wouldn't even acknowledge.

              How times have changed . . .
              Brilliant.

              All TR fighters has the WBO belt.

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                #47
                Originally posted by ////
                What's the relevance of the random photo of some of floyds belts on his pool table? other tha thats how many belts fit on a pool table
                There's some spare room on the left side of the pool table. If the IBO was a priority he would have put them there.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ////
                  What's the relevance of the random photo of some of floyds belts on his pool table? other tha thats how many belts fit on a pool table
                  Meaning...CAN YOU EVEN SPOT THE IBO BELT

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                    So what though? How does that change the fact that both Linares and Terry Flanagan beat the same number of top 10 fighters to win their belts. None.
                    What your talking about has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. My position is that a WBC belt holds more commercial value in the marketplace than a WBO belt. You've offered nothing that contradicts my position.

                    You say all belts *should* be regarded equally. Thank you for your opinion. I'm saying all belts aren't regarded equally. Whether you think they should be is irrelevant. Either they are or they aren't.

                    And they aren't.

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