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  • Motorcity Cobra
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    #31
    Originally posted by _Maxi
    Two wrongs make a right? If what you say is true then yes Molina did some shit.

    However what you say about those weights being the weights of the next morning, it's not truth. If you take a look at the IBF second day weigh ins, by the next morning the fighters have already filled 10 pounds, EVERYTIME. They are all on the 10 pounds limit by next morning. So even if that was the case, they should still be close to 164. As you can see, I already thought about that and dismissed it. You're not that smart buddy.
    What are the two wrongs? Do you understand the word UNOFFICIAL or do you need it translated? One guy lied Abbas missed weight. The two other guys made weight and you're complaining about the two guys who made weight. WTF?!?!? UNOFFICIAL means it isn't verified. Fight night weights mean nothing. And to suggest that these guys are gaining 30lbs post weigh-in shows you know nothing about boxing. That type of weight gain would've been reflected in their performance

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      #32
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      What are the two wrongs? Do you understand the word UNOFFICIAL or do you need it translated? One guy lied Abbas missed weight. The two other guys made weight and you're complaining about the two guys who made weight. WTF?!?!? UNOFFICIAL means it isn't verified. Fight night weights mean nothing. And to suggest that these guys are gaining 30lbs post weigh-in shows you know nothing about boxing. That type of weight gain would've been reflected in their performance
      Man you can't use fact on these scabs.

      They are too irrational and filled with hatred for American fighters.

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      • _Maxi
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        #33
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        What are the two wrongs? Do you understand the word UNOFFICIAL or do you need it translated? One guy lied Abbas missed weight. The two other guys made weight and you're complaining about the two guys who made weight. WTF?!?!? UNOFFICIAL means it isn't verified. Fight night weights mean nothing. And to suggest that these guys are gaining 30lbs post weigh-in shows you know nothing about boxing. That type of weight gain would've been reflected in their performance
        Showtime/Haymon bull****ing on us lying with fight night weights is one wrong.

        Molina's actions are another wrong, but it's freaking offtopic and has nothing to do with this thread. What the **** you are thick man.

        The fact that the weights are unnofficial doesn't mean that they can lie in our faces like that. I preffer them to hide it and don't mention anything about it.
        Last edited by _Maxi; 12-12-2016, 02:10 AM.

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        • hectari
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          #34
          Originally posted by _Maxi
          Hi guys. This is a thread for rational people and not ****** haters. If you feel like insulting first without even thinking, please get outta here. Thanks.

          Erislandy Lara is known for rehydrating between 166 and 171. On his last fight against Vanes, they said Lara's fight night weight was 160. Strange...

          Now they claim Charlo and Williams were 158 and 159 respectively.



          WTF is going on? Charlo looked HUGE and:

          * 158 is what most WW weigh.
          * He was at 170 for a fight on december 2014. It's clear that was his real weight back in the day. No way he lost 12 pounds...

          I understand that fight night weight has become an issue lately, and fighters/promoters are hiding them. But lying about them? Mayweather style I guess.

          Source: past fight night weights of Lara and Charlo.

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          yeah I notice this too, they either put some weird guess number or none at all for fight night weight

          Im guessing they didnt even weigh them like HBO does, instead they probably asked them how much you weighing now and the fighters probably lied and said 158

          HBO weighed Margarito the morning of the fight before Pacquiao or the evening after weigh ins and he put on like 20 pounds on fight night he was around 170 pounds but when they weighed him on the hbo scale he was 168 or something.

          Charlo is not going to hydrate to only 4 pounds the guy walks around at 170, he would be dehydrated if he did that, most 170 guys will cut mainly water weight so he had to at least be in the 160s 4 pounds is too little and he didnt look drained on the fight.

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          • Motorcity Cobra
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            #35
            Originally posted by _Maxi
            Showtime/Haymon bull****ing on us lying with fight night weights is one wrong.

            Molina's actions are another wrong, but it's freaking offtopic and has nothing to do with this thread. What the **** you are thick man.

            The fact that the weights are unnofficial doesn't mean that they can lie in our faces like that. I preffer them to hide it and don't mention anything about it.
            It's an UNOFFICIAL weigh-in. What part of unofficial don't you understand? This isn't some conspiracy theory. If you want to know what their official second day weigh -in was you can ask the IBF and they'll tell you

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            • Mexican_Puppet
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              #36
              What was the weight of Cuellar in the fight night?

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              • Ray*
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                #37
                Got to say looking at Charlo and his broad back he looks heavier than 159, i was thinking this guy could actually move to 160 and make a name for himself whilst watching the fight. But to be honest as long as they make weigh i really dont care much about what they weigh in on fight night (Unless they outweigh their opponent to a dangerous level).

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                • jmrf4435
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                  #38
                  PBC aint weighing fighters

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                  • hectari
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                    If he was dehydrating so much weight why would he come in to the weigh in half of a pound under?

                    You either believe the fight night weights or dismiss everyones. You don't pick and choose whichever ones suit you.
                    A lot of fighters hydrate back 15-20 pounds by fight night and weigh in a half a pound under on weigh ins.

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                    • NaijaD
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                      #40
                      It's unofficial meaning there is also no set time that they have to be weighed on the day. Those weights were probably collected in the very early parts of the day.

                      What do showtime have to gain by manipulating unofficial weights???

                      I don't see why it's a big deal unless someone missed the contracted weight for the fight like Salido did against Lomachenko.

                      Both guys made 154 without any problems for the fight, people focus too much on fight night weights and walk around weights and ignore who can make weight for a certain weight class.

                      Golovkin isn't that heavy on fight night but it's obvious he can't fight at 154. You can't ignore that.

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