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  • #11
    Originally posted by cork View Post
    Title. What happens if they refuse to give the opponent a rematch? Get sued for crazy amount of money?

    As far as ward vs Kovalev goes. If ward doesn't honor the rematch clause he will be stripped. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    • #12
      I wouldn't even be surprised if Duva/Main Events got fooled and that the "so called" rematch clause was so ambiguous that it could be walked around easily by Ward ... They are that bad ...

      I guess none of us "mortals" saw the actual contract, right ?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by bluebeam View Post
        As far as ward vs Kovalev goes. If ward doesn't honor the rematch clause he will be stripped. Nothing more, nothing less.
        Being stripped of the belt has become almost a badge of honor for some. Look how proud Canelo is to give up his belt. It proves he's an A side negotiator. That's way cooler than taking the hard fight against an opponent who might beat you.

        Ward is setting himself up for glory as a true A side. Where it matters. Not in the ring, but at the negotiation table. To not fight, when devils demand that you honor their contracts of slavery, is glory and greatness.

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        • #14
          You can't get sued if you refuse to rematch, BUT you can't fight any other bouts as well. Sort of like if you have a contract with a promoter for five fights - if you say "hey I'm retiring now," after your third fight in, you can't get sued... however the promoter can get an injection to prevent u from fighting other fights under another promotional banner, i.e. Don King w/ Mayorga

          The stipulations for the rematch are already established when the initial contract is signed for the first fight. So you're saying that by accepting this first fight, "you agree to all these terms for a rematch should the other guy enforce his right to it."

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
            I would imagine Ward's first obligation is to honor the rematch clause. So if he puts himself in a situation where he signs with Showtime and can't fight on HBO where Kovalev is obligated, he could be liable for obstruction. That's for the courts to decide.

            At anyrate, Ward's using the retirement talk, maybe for leverage, maybe for real.


            HAHAHAHAH YUP!

            I called it!

            I said Ward would retire before rematching Kovalev.

            Hahah such a coward. Boxing can't get rid of him fast enough.

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            • #16
              HAHAHAHAH YUP!

              I called it!

              I said Ward would retire before rematching Kovalev.

              Hahah such a coward. Boxing can't get rid of him fast enough.
              Did you actually read the excerpt from the interview? Ward alluded to retiring if the rematch couldn't be negotiated....

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                I think Ward could have some tricky outs too doe. For example I've heard that his contracts with both HBO & Roc Nation have been fulfilled.

                So for an easy example lets say Showtime offers Ward a deal. Ward accepts. Now Ward can't fight off Showtime & Kovalev can't fight off of HBO. How do you rematch now? Joint ppv for a fight that did poor PPV numbers from what I've heard?

                Or lets say Roc Nation doesn't re-sign Ward so now Ward gots to get with another promoter or go promoter-less. Ward got $5M for the first fight (how much for the fight vs whatever Roc Nation gave him on top is debatable & probably an unknown right now). If there is a rematch clause there is SURELY wording that discusses the purses to make that rematch & I gotta figure its possible that without Roc Nation to overpay Ward those numbers might not be doable for Duva unless she's willing to take a big risk that the fight does better &/or that Kovalev wins.

                And this is just assuming there aren't other outs. Anyone worth a damn who's representing you today should always be including clauses that give their guy an out for mandatory's & its unreasonable to force fights within a certain time period thus a guy could "be injured" or just be inactive til a mandatory pops up so I could easily see that angle used for full effect in Ward's case.
                Oh I dont for a second doubt Ward and his team will look for an "out" or multiple such situations, I was just trying to explain how rematch clauses often work.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
                  ... only if the contract stipulates "step aside money"... but what if the contract doesn't stipulate a limit to liabilities?... As long as the contract isn't open to the public, no one actually knows what the rematch clause consists in...
                  Of course, we can't know for sure, I was simply trying to explain the average rematch clause and how it has usually worked.

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                  • #19
                    If Ward retires without rematching Kovalev I'll think he's one of the biggest puss1es of recent times.

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