Comments Thread For: Arum: McGregor Using Boxing License as Leverage Against UFC

[Earl-Hickey]

Shut it arum you old fart

[aboutfkntime]

Ass hole.....I boxed since I was 8 years old also wrestling LOL I got into BJJ when I was 14. Sparring is NOT fighting. McGregor was sparring some ex world champ and doing OK but thats entirely different than a fight. Stop trying to understand Boxing from anything other than an armchair critic perspective because there's way too much to understand that has to be experienced, and for someone to be obsessed with Boxing as much as you are but never have competed means you simply dont have the heart and thats why you're obsessed with it. Ive seen guys like you my whole life. I bet you have a 3 year old dusty heavybag hanging in your garage without a single dent in it.

how come a classy pro with world-class experience couldn't deal with a 16yo fool?

and now you're threatening Dennis Lebedev ?

[Lou Cipher]

how come a classy pro with world-class experience couldn't deal with a 16yo fool?

and now you're threatening Dennis Lebedev ?

All gibberish aside, where did you ever get the impression that dude is a "classy Boxer?" Maybe when he got older he learned a little defense but he was nothing to me. I couldnt miss him if i tried. He couldn't punch either. Lebedev is a Turd. Especially for a Russian

[aboutfkntime]

All gibberish aside, where did you ever get the impression that dude is a "classy Boxer?" Maybe when he got older he learned a little defense but he was nothing to me. I couldnt miss him if i tried. He couldn't punch either. Lebedev is a Turd. Especially for a Russian

fk you're an idiot Lou LMAO

NOBODY believes your bull**** kid

you said that you were 6'4"





LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Lou Cipher]

fk you're an idiot Lou LMAO

NOBODY believes your bull**** kid

you said that you were 6'4"





LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Oops wrong account again pencil **** lol!!!! 6'4? You have me mixed up with someone else who relentlessly owned you. I own you boi

[Eff Pandas]

The UFC created the platform that enables these guys - who would otherwise be unheard of - to make real money. The important point is that fighters can’t make that sort of money elsewhere. If they could they would.

That’s where PBC can’t imitate the UFC. Firstly, they have to buy a monopoly position, whereas the UFC got it by being innovative in an emerging market. And secondly they face competition way more intense than anything the Fertittas had to live with. So that leads them towards competitive practices that are the polar opposite of the UFC model, soft matchmaking, huge fighter fees, erratic schedules etc.

Boxing fans are getting a terrible product because of the structure of the industry, which itself is about (1) the dominant business model and (2) the fragmentation of control. The business model problem everyone knows. Soft matchmaking over several years building towards PPV events. The chosen fighters being paid enough in single events to justify them not fighting any more than twice in 18 months. That is obviously a cancer rotting the sport from the inside out.

More important I think is the higher order structure, the fragmentation of power. We’re stuck in this awful in-between state. We get none of the benefits of a fair system where no one actor has enough power to distort the market and people have to work together. But neither do we have a single entity with enough control to plan and act in the interests of the entire sport. The UFC having a near monopoly creates that entity, allowing them to mobilise massive resources (media, events, fighters) to develop a product that appeals to people and grows the sport.

Boxing has too many wannabe emperors. Big enough to create their own bullshit franchises where they match their ‘stars’ against garbage opposition. Not big enough to consistently put stars against each other.

The only way out of this is for these organisations to get weaker, or for one of them to get a lot stronger. Haymon hasn’t done it with more money than anyone else is ever going to have to do it, so for me it’s obvious. The sport needs a financial collapse that it going to bring those little emperors to their knees, and force them to work together.

For anyone who’s concerned about the impact this would have on the fighters, console yourself in the knowledge that 99% of the fighters don’t benefit from how things are now either.

I think I agree with all of this except the bolded. I think a financial collapse as you call it just leads to boxing getting smaller & smaller until someone does succeed in a "takeover" of boxing. Boxing will become riper for a takeover by an outside entity the smaller it gets. And I'd speculate Haymon jumped in with PBC at a time he felt it was ripe enough for a takeover. If he ends up being right or not is to be determined.

I would concede it could be the little emperors deciding to group up together moving forward as I believe could be taken away from what you are saying. But I also believe that what you are saying could just be a handshake agreement in tough times that becomes a Scorpion & the Frog story when things get into better times. Thus someone is gonna need to become much stronger or a long term agreement will need to be made with the power players before boxing becomes what it could be today if it wasn't every man for himself unlike any other sport.

[aboutfkntime]

Oops wrong account again pencil **** lol!!!! 6'4? You have me mixed up with someone else who relentlessly owned you. I own you boi

6'4





spanked a veteran pro with world-class experience back when you were a 16yo MMA fighter





would smash Dennis Lebedev, EASILY.....





LMAOOOOO

[Lou Cipher]

6'4

Yeah right maybe when you're standing on your computer chair LOL. Women will always laugh at you.

[aboutfkntime]

Yeah right maybe when you're standing on your computer chair LOL. Women will always laugh at you.

please tell us another cool story bro

but this time have aliens, and spaceships..... and ninja's ^^

I like ninja's

[Lou Cipher]

please tell us another cool story bro

but this time have aliens, and spaceships..... and ninja's ^^

I like ninja's

The woman of your dreams will always cheat on you with real men like Lou Cipher, and theres nothing you can do to stop it