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    Back in 2013, Yvon Michel of (GYM), a Montreal-based promoter who has been around, has conceded that he wouldn’t mind if his charge undertook to engage in a unification fight against another recognized champion at 175 pounds in Hopkins, but he also appeared ready to offer a unique and ambitious deal to Andre Ward, the WBA “Super” super middleweight champion (which, we assume, must mean that he is REALLY super).

    It entails a guarantee of two fights. The first one would be at 168 pounds, in Ward’s hometown of Oakland, with a scheduled September date. Such a thing shouldn’t be impossible for Stevenson to do, considering that he only recently moved from the super middleweight ranks, although it doesn’t seem to allow a lot of time to do it in.

    The built-in rematch would take place at a date to be determined, but it would be at 175 pounds, and in Montreal, which is not only where Michel is based but is also Stevenson’s adopted hometown (he is a native of Haiti).
    The two-fight series would give each man a chance to fight in their own hometown, where they would put their own belt on the line.

    There are glitches with such a thing, however. Perhaps the more prudent way to do it would be to reverse the fights, to ensure that a belt would legitimately be on the line in both. To illustrate, if Ward were to fight the first bout at 175, he would have a chance to win Stevenson’s belt, though his own wouldn’t be at risk. Then, Stevenson would have a chance to drop weight and fight for Ward’s title.

    The way these fights have been proposed, if Ward won the first fight at 168, it would take a lot of the starch out of Stevenson’s title, since both men would have been under the 175-pound limit that is required for valid championship contests. It could theoretically, then, be for both titles, and traditionally in boxing, non-title fights have been over-the-weight affairs. But in this day and age of multiple titles with the same governing body in each division, anything apparently goes.

    From the standpoint of box office viability, it can be a big winner, since each of the fighters can draw numbers in their respective home areas. And because of Ward’s reputation, as well as Stevenson’s punching power, it should be an attractive and intriguing matchup for television. If Stevenson pulled off another thunderous knockout win, the way he did to wrest the WBC title away from Chad Dawson, everyone would probably want to see the return bout.

    Here is the risk: what if the first fight is a dud? Or if Ward, for example, dominated Stevenson so thoroughly that there was little demand on the part of anyone to see a rematch. That is what makes any proposed two-fight deal a dicey one. Michel’s requirement is that the second fight would have to take place, regardless of the outcome of the first fight.

    Sources: box*ng*ns*der.com

    Ward didn’t have an opponent yet and we could see him taking the fight with Stevenson.
    We weren't sure though whether Ward would've been okay with moving up to 175 to take the fight, but I think he’d work with it.*Between 2012 to 2013, Ward was a guest commentator at HBO and became a senior commentator at $78,933, replacing our late Emanuel Steward. But in the meantime, Ward was categorical. He did not expect to face Stevenson based on "what he called", inexperience.
    Last edited by TheThirdEye; 11-30-2016, 05:04 AM.

  • #2
    At the very least Ward should have to fight Kovalev one more time. So unfortunately Stevonson will have to wait.

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    • #3
      This was 3 years ago, a lot of things have changed since then.

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      • #4
        Ward/Kov is a trilogy. Stevenson isn't on anybody's mind at the moment.

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        • #5
          Fast forward to 2016/17, Andre Ward is a 3-belt LHW champion and obligated to fight Sergey Kovalev in a rematch. If Adonis wants to fight Ward he's going to have to ask Haymon to loosen up his leash first.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Illmatic94 View Post
            Ward/Kov is a trilogy. Stevenson isn't on anybody's mind at the moment.
            Lol Ward would NEVER fight Kovalev again if he didn't have to...

            I bet he's pissed as **** it's in the contract hahah... He prolly didn't even realize it...

            He'll do everything he can to avoid it... I would't be surprised if he retires to avoid it.

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            • #7
              When you look at all the facts you'll find that Kovalev and Hopkins ducked Stevenson and Ward didn't want anything to do with Stevenson then or now.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by adrikitty View Post
                Lol Ward would NEVER fight Kovalev again if he didn't have to...

                I bet he's pissed as **** it's in the contract hahah... He prolly didn't even realize it...

                He'll do everything he can to avoid it... I would't be surprised if he retires to avoid it.
                Why wouldn't you face someone you've beat fair and square already? If you think Kovalev won with the rest of the sheep you don't know how to score fights.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by adrikitty View Post
                  Lol Ward would NEVER fight Kovalev again if he didn't have to...

                  I bet he's pissed as **** it's in the contract hahah... He prolly didn't even realize it...

                  He'll do everything he can to avoid it... I would't be surprised if he retires to avoid it.
                  just like he would need 2 more tune ups after Barrera? or how he'd fake an injury and pull out? oh thats right, he was gonna duck Kov and never fight him......here on earth they fought 11/19/16 and none of that stuff ever transpired

                  why would a guy who got better as the fight wore on, hasnt lost since he started sprouting peach fuzz, and now knows what it takes to defeat Kovalev, avoid a rematch

                  this was literally the first truely close fight of the mans career

                  Ward has never ducked anyone....or avoided anyone

                  boxing is a business and uncle Al has the final say on Adonis coming out to play

                  Ward has to beat Kov more clearly, to put a stamp on the disputes of who won.

                  He will, and will go on to beat some top 175ers

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame View Post
                    Why wouldn't you face someone you've beat fair and square already? If you think Kovalev won with the rest of the sheep you don't know how to score fights.
                    I'd love to see you school Al bernstein on how to score a fight

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