DeGale vs GGG, UK ? If DeGale beats Jack.

[Madison Boxing]

golovkin beats degale. bute and medina gave degale hell. Supermiddle is a pretty weak division now, people who think GGG is going to lose at super middle will be very dissapointed.

[Jewish-Reptile]

golovkin beats degale. bute and medina gave degale hell. Supermiddle is a pretty weak division now, people who think GGG is going to lose at super middle will be very dissapointed.

That's just it I don't think he will, hence my disappointment he hangs around 160 and will retire a perennial under achiever having wasted his prime years fighting cans, bums and waiting for Cameltoè, a fight I don't believe will happen and even if it does who does it benefit except GGG and his team ? Real boxing fans have no interest in one sided beat downs hence why their is no interest in Jacobs either.

When GGG moves up to 168 I will shout for him as I did before, don't want him going to 175 either those guys would maim him, be one that interests me is Callum Smith vs GGG at 168 a fight I find hard to call.

For me GGG beats Jack, DeGale and Zurdo, likely drops or stops them too.

[Jewish-Reptile]

His hardcore detractors will argue 168 is empty and a dead division but beating the top three guys after clearing out 160 books him as an ATG imo, you can only fight what's in front of you and I'm sure a catch weight can be worked between the pound for pound king Andre Ward at 171-172, wouldn't expect GGG to be stopped there but I think he'd lose on points.

[Madison Boxing]

That's just it I don't think he will, hence my disappointment he hangs around 160 and will retire a perennial under achiever having wasted his prime years fighting cans, bums and waiting for Cameltoè, a fight I don't believe will happen and even if it does who does it benefit except GGG and his team ? Real boxing fans have no interest in one sided beat downs hence why their is no interest in Jacobs either.

When GGG moves up to 168 I will shout for him as I did before, don't want him going to 175 either those guys would maim him, be one that interests me is Callum Smith vs GGG at 168 a fight I find hard to call.

For me GGG beats Jack, DeGale and Zurdo, likely drops or stops them too.

yeah ive changed my stance on his weight really, i would like to see him move up to 168. Because noone at 160 really seems that interested in fighting him, and he cant afford another year like last year where hes waiting for these middleweights and ducknelo to grow a pair of balls. Needs to make some serious moves in the next two years, groves called him out so i wouldnt mind seeing that as his next fight. Super middle isnt star studded but the alternative is that he could end up hanging about at 160 wasting his career waiting for a fight thats never going to happen with canelo

[Jewish-Reptile]

yeah ive changed my stance on his weight really, i would like to see him move up to 168. Because noone at 160 really seems that interested in fighting him, and he cant afford another year like last year where hes waiting for these middleweights and ducknelo to grow a pair of balls. Needs to make some serious moves in the next two years, groves called him out so i wouldnt mind seeing that as his next fight. Super middle isnt star studded but the alternative is that he could end up hanging about at 160 wasting his career waiting for a fight thats never going to happen with canelo

He's gonna have to, Canelo ain't going for it with him. As much as I'd like to see GGG give him a royal ass fückin I'm just not interested as I'm not interested in seeing push Jacobs or Flounders shyt in either.

Anyone who says he didnt fight the best if he moves up before facing them are absolute clowns of the highest order if he has to move up because he couldn't get them in the ring, Jacobs, Flounders and Canelo have proved nothing more than the likes of Lemiuex, Geale and Murray, Murray was arguably the lineal champ, it's all irrelevant and by the by.

I know he'll struggle getting Jack but if DeGale beats Jack he can get that guy with K2's repute with Hearn and Zurdo should be easy to strike a deal with dealing with Arum, easier than dealing with Haymon anyway.

People completely misinterpret my dissatisfaction with GGG, it's all documented I am a fan, I was a huge fan I just tire of uncompetitive action I can't get excited over one sided fights. The writing was on the wall after the way he dealt with Geale I realised then he had to move up or at least I wanted him to move up.

Smith I genuinely think is the only one south of 175 who will slow him or stop him in his tracks, he's very raw though so I certainly would not bank on it, I'd favour GGG at this stage at 168 versus that beast. Though I don't think he'd beat any of the top three at light heavy at a 171-172 CW.

[Madison Boxing]

He's gonna have to, Canelo ain't going for it with him. As much as I'd like to see GGG give him a royal ass fückin I'm just not interested as I'm not interested in seeing push Jacobs or Flounders shyt in either.

Anyone who says he didnt fight the best if he moves up before facing them are absolute clowns of the highest order if he has to move up because he couldn't get them in the ring, Jacobs, Flounders and Canelo have proved nothing more than the likes of Lemiuex, Geale and Murray, Murray was arguably the lineal champ, it's all irrelevant and by the by.

I know he'll struggle getting Jack but if DeGale beats Jack he can get that guy with K2's repute with Hearn and Zurdo should be easy to strike a deal with dealing with Arum, easier than dealing with Haymon anyway.

People completely misinterpret my dissatisfaction with GGG, it's all documented I am a fan, I was a huge fan I just tire of uncompetitive action I can't get excited over one sided fights. The writing was on the wall after the way he dealt with Geale I realised then he had to move up or at least I wanted him to move up.

Smith I genuinely think is the only one south of 175 who will slow him or stop him in his tracks, he's very raw though so I certainly would not bank on it, I'd favour GGG at this stage at 168 versus that beast. Though I don't think he'd beat any of the top three at light heavy at a 171-172 CW.

yeah, well you know im a pretty big ggg fan, to annoying levels for many lol. But same as you i cant really get too hyped for another year at middleweight. If he got jacobs, saunders, canelo in the ring that would be great but its not going to happen, to be honest he'd be lucky to get one of them in. I genuinely think groves or degale would take the fight at SMW, think they probably saw enough vulnerability in GGG against brook for them to think theyve got a chance of beating him, hence groves calling him out. Im not sold on callum smith yet, a lot to prove. ONly problem is i know what will happen when he gets to SMW, people will then call him a ducker for not fighting the killers at light heavy.

[bboy80]

Personally think Degale could box rings around him, however his own lackadaisical attitude of taking rounds off and languishing on the ropes could potentially get him ko'd.

Its either a win on points or he gets stopped toss up imo.

[Jewish-Reptile]

yeah, well you know im a pretty big ggg fan, to annoying levels for many lol. But same as you i cant really get too hyped for another year at middleweight. If he got jacobs, saunders, canelo in the ring that would be great but its not going to happen, to be honest he'd be lucky to get one of them in. I genuinely think groves or degale would take the fight at SMW, think they probably saw enough vulnerability in GGG against brook for them to think theyve got a chance of beating him, hence groves calling him out. Im not sold on callum smith yet, a lot to prove. ONly problem is i know what will happen when he gets to SMW, people will then call him a ducker for not fighting the killers at light heavy.

I actually think Groves could cause GGG a lot of problems the more I think of it, I completely forget about him every time I debate GGG at 168, Groves ain't no creme puff.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Personally think Degale could box rings around him, however his own lackadaisical attitude of taking rounds off and languishing on the ropes could potentially get him ko'd.

Its either a win on points or he gets stopped toss up imo.

DeGale cuts too easily, size would not be an issue for GGG with his natural disadvantage he's busted Bute up already and shown he can marshall guys like Murray around in the pros too, I'm not sold by DeGale and feel he'll likely want GGG to prove himself ultimately even if he won he'd get no credit for beating the Kazakh puncher.

I'm meh with DeGale but he can box, seems to have a lazy attitude, he needs an ass kicker in there, he'd be great with someone like Virgil Hunter.

[Gillie]

I think it only makes sense, all the way around.
-UK boxing is hot, go where the money is.
-GGG gets major credit for beating DeGale, and a loss against a larger champ isn't the end either.
-Degale gets himself in prime-time if he beats Golovkin. And, if he loses, it was Golovkin. No shame.

I personally think GGG takes this and it's a much better option than waiting around on fighters who clearly don't want to fight him right now. How many months is he going to throw away being stalled out by these guys? Hello folks, Canelo is not fighting him any time soon. At 34, he doesn't have the time to waste.

Agreed. He should move up now and fight the 168 lb Champs and strengthen his resume. It is pretty clear that Oscar will let Canelo fight him only once he feels that he's ripe for the picking.