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  • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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    #11
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    Whats your proof its not true? They said they tested a supplement Bute was using & found the banned substance Bute had in his system. This has happened numerous times before to other combat sports athletes & this was something known & speculated on before all the PED talk in boxing started. These supplements in GNC & other health stores can have PED's or traces of PED's in them due to them being manufactured with the same equipment PED products are being manufactured on cuz the supplement industry is super mfing sketchy.

    And this isn't to say you are definitely wrong, cuz you could be right, but there is no proof you are. And obviously some of these cats are doing PED's purposely & getting off or not even getting caught in the first place as I often speculate the guys who are smart & using PED's are the guys who've never popped for anything, but who's to say who is & who isn't. You're just throwing out a bunch of conspiracy **** where everyone is guilty until proven innocent & one can never be proven innocent cuz of the conspiracy lol.
    Unless the product was listed as a supplement that he was taking PRIOR to the testing, Bute's team could had just looked up a supplement that had the ingredient then told them that's what they were taking.

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #12
      Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
      Unless the product was listed as a supplement that he was taking PRIOR to the testing, Bute's team could had just looked up a supplement that had the ingredient then told them that's what they were taking.
      Thats not how it works. The ingredient WASN'T listed on the supplement cuz if it was it wouldn't be inadvertent use. Its something supplement companies add to help buyers get results or it ends up in the supplement because the manufacturer isn't properly cleaning its equipment thus banned substances that weren't intentional meant to be added to a supplement get added to it.

      The latter is kinda like how you buy a protein bar & on the label it says it may contain peanuts or oats or other things not on the ingredients list since people could have allergies to them or don't want to ingest them as a warning cuz it was manufactured on machinery that was used to create products with peanuts, oats or whatever. Thats a FDA thing. Supplements aren't as closely watched as most other ingested products is the problem. The supplement industry is SUPER MFING SKETCHY.

      Exactly what they would do in this case is get the lot number of the supplement Bute used & go buy it independently & test the product (or thats what they should be doing since they didn't go into much detail in the article). This insures that Bute or his team couldn't just throw the banned substance in the supplement & say see we didn't do anything on purpose as I'm sure some have tried exactly that. If its in his purchased substance its extremely likely to be in all the supplements with the same lot number.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Thats not how it works. The ingredient WASN'T listed on the supplement cuz if it was it wouldn't be inadvertent use. Its something supplement companies add to help buyers get results or it ends up in the supplement because the manufacturer isn't properly cleaning its equipment thus banned substances that weren't intentional meant to be added to a supplement get added to it.

        The latter is kinda like how you buy a protein bar & on the label it says it may contain peanuts or oats or other things not on the ingredients list since people could have allergies to them or don't want to ingest them as a warning cuz it was manufactured on machinery that was used to create products with peanuts, oats or whatever. Thats a FDA thing. Supplements aren't as closely watched as most other ingested products is the problem. The supplement industry is SUPER MFING SKETCHY.

        Exactly what they would do in this case is get the lot number of the supplement Bute used & go buy it independently & test the product (or thats what they should be doing since they didn't go into much detail in the article). This insures that Bute or his team couldn't just throw the banned substance in the supplement & say see we didn't do anything on purpose as I'm sure some have tried exactly that. If its in his purchased substance its extremely likely to be in all the supplements with the same lot number.
        I know exactly how it works. But I wasn't talking about the ingredient being listed.

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        • Eff Pandas
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          #14
          Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
          I know exactly how it works. But I wasn't talking about the ingredient being listed.
          So you're saying that Bute wanted to take Ostarine so he looked up a supplement that as a company decided to add Ostarine to their product unknowingly to customers or was inadvertently added in the manufacturing process? I mean maybe I guess.

          There are probably mfers testing supplements on their own & talking about whats reallllllllly in supplements somewhere on the internet or dark web. So yea I suppose that could've been what happened.

          Via occums razor I still gotta conclude the most likely situation is that this was a legit inadvertent usage situation cuz anyone with some PED smarts can pass a test & smartly use PEDs without being caught. I guess thats my main issue with these the boxers are always guilty stances most people have.

          The guys who are really intelligent on PED's & banned substances & their benefits are using WITHOUT getting caught right now.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Illmatic94
            bute vs ggg @168.. why not?
            with headgear or without headgear? Bute is easy work for GGG. The form of Bute is also very low right now.

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            • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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              #16
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              So you're saying that Bute wanted to take Ostarine so he looked up a supplement that as a company decided to add Ostarine to their product unknowingly to customers or was inadvertently added in the manufacturing process? I mean maybe I guess.
              That's not what I was trying to say either. Lol

              It doesn't even matter. Who cares about Bute anyway?

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              • Eff Pandas
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                #17
                Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
                That's not what I was trying to say either.
                Then idk what you are trying to say that makes any sense.

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                • Uncle Rodge
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                  #18
                  Froch ruined him. Maybe he'll give him 50k to stfu?

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                  • kennethjohn
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                    #19
                    I'm canadian, bute fan etc, but I find this extremely fishy..

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                    • kennethjohn
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                      #20
                      I believe there is corruption in the sport but every close decision that goes a diffrent way than hbo says is called a screw job. to me this isn't like that and I have no proof I could be wrong.

                      I think this is complete horse****. didn't bute test for specefic steroids. now it was a bad test??
                      I didn't think that Jack won by wide but I didnt think he had enough banked first. bute got every benefit in that. I have no problem with bute vs ggg let ggg knock his ass into retirment.

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