I scored it wide for Ward on the night, scored it for Kovalev after rewatching.

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  • Dr Rumack
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    #21
    Originally posted by Willy Wanker
    That's what I did like about HBO was that Lampley and Lederman were on Kovalev's **** and Max was all over Ward's ****, so at least it gave the audience more of a balanced view overall.

    Roy was somewhat neutral, even though he did seem to lean towards Ward during the fight, but he thought Kovalev won after the fight.

    I'm gonna rescore the fight watching the Sky Sports version later. I don't like Paulie at all, but I do think he's an excellent commentator, usually.
    The balance is essential. Especially in close fights. HBO's lack of balance in the Pac/JMM3 & Bradley1 fights was awful. But then I thought they swung way too far in Floyd's direction for Pac's fight with him. It's not new. The commentary for Chavez-Taylor over 25 years ago is just as ridiculous as anything they've done lately.

    I like Paulie's analysis, but he's increasingly unable to keep his personal feelings out of it. Naked bias of that nature is just too annoying to listen to.

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    • Blue Heffner
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      #22
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      You have to take it to the champ. Ward didn't do that. He survived a beating but that's knot winning
      Kov won.
      Traditionally this has always been the case (usually). But then, there are posters saying it's not necessary. No other fighter, fighting the way Ward did would have gotten the nod (that I can think of). Kovalev's power and skill isn't going anywhere. And for people to think Ward will beat him easier next time must be high. He didn't throw anything to hurt or even stun Kovalev. I think he'll be prepared to walk through whatever Ward throws. It's very possible for Ward to get Ko'd. Both will make adjustments but it won't be easier for Ward, which is what I see people saying.

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      • boliodogs
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        #23
        You should try to ignore the guys calling the fight when you are scoring that fight.

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        • Bigg Rigg
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          #24
          I gave up on listening to the commentary during the fights. I just watch. I heard Paulie was sucking mad Ward **** on sky and that Jim and Harold were gagging on Kovalev's ****.

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          • Kel1981
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            #25
            Originally posted by daggum
            lets not call everything equal when its not. one guy was initiating the fouls. punish him and the other fouls won't exist. you think kov's strategy was to headlock ward in order to win the fight? no it was to box, on the otehr hand wards strategy was to clinch and punch off the clinches. illegal. ref should have stopped it. kov was headlocking in order to prevent ward from cheating. thats not the same as cheating as a fight strategy.
            100% correct.

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            • Thraxox
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              #26
              Originally posted by Kel1981
              100% correct.
              They had nothing to answer when I posted my round by round view points. They completely ignored it and went to other people.

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              • boliodogs
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                #27
                Originally posted by Blue Heffner
                Traditionally this has always been the case (usually). But then, there are posters saying it's not necessary. No other fighter, fighting the way Ward did would have gotten the nod (that I can think of). Kovalev's power and skill isn't going anywhere. And for people to think Ward will beat him easier next time must be high. He didn't throw anything to hurt or even stun Kovalev. I think he'll be prepared to walk through whatever Ward throws. It's very possible for Ward to get Ko'd. Both will make adjustments but it won't be easier for Ward, which is what I see people saying.
                This poster says it's not necessary to give the champion any edge in scoring a title fight and it is wrong and unfair to the challenger. Pascal said after his draw with Hopkins that as the champion all the close rounds should have gone to him. A title fight is scored no differently than any other fight and the winner of a round gets that round even if it was close. Scoring the fight as I would score any fight I had Kovalev a clear winner in a fairly close fight.

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                • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                  Stopped reading at "I scored it wide for Ward."

                  Anyone who had it wide for either fighter and ESPECIALLY Ward has 0 credibility in my book.

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                  • yoz
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    they gave the fight to the guy who landed less, landed less cleanly, the guy who was hurt when hit, and the guy who was being dirty. or in other words.....THE SLICK BOXER

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
                      I gave up on listening to the commentary during the fights. I just watch. I heard Paulie was sucking mad Ward **** on sky and that Jim and Harold were gagging on Kovalev's ****.
                      At one point I felt like I was reading NSB's fanboyism.

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