Ward vs Kovalev II should be staged in Moscow...

[New England]

americans keep telling themselves that. The Perez-Booker just proved what horse**** that statement is.

perez and booker is not a big fight. it was an undrecard, and really it easn't even worthy of that.


if you think there's a more neutral site / a site and regulating body more fit to host the rematch, then name it. you need hotels, betting money, boxing infrastructure to host a fight of this magnitude. ward got a 5 million dollar garantee, ffs. kovalev fought in a small stadium in russia and generated a fraction of the revenue.


and there's this:

"That week I received over 200 phone calls, emails etc., a lot of them alluding to threats on Fres’ life, my life and our families if we didn’t go" claims Tom Tsatas Oquendo’s advisor. "I have reported this to the FBI and I have sent them the emails."

"They promised us everything to get us over there, but in the end gave us nothing," continued Tsatas. "Once we got there, everything changed. We were not allowed to leave the hotel grounds and we were only able to eat at one place inside the hotel. One member from our team was told in the elevator that if Fres knocked out Chagaev, none of us would leave the country. After the fight we took Fres to the hospital for a brain scan and then he, our promoter and trainer were essentially kidnapped and forced by men carrying automatic weapons to go back to the arena and forced to submit to the RUSADA drug test. And when we were leaving the next day, at the airport, our passports mysteriously went "missing" for over an hour while the promoter, complete with a firearm clearly visible on him, took us to a dimly lit back room and tried to renegotiate Fres’ $1 million purse by offering us a suitcase full of $200,000 in cash. Ultimately, to get out of the country, I actually had to sneak onto the plane using someone else’s boarding pass."


take it for what it's worth, but you don't hear rumors about jay z trying to pay kovlaev 20% of his total purse with a gun on him.

[Tom Cruise]

perez and booker is not a big fight. it was an undrecard, and really it easn't even worthy of that.


if you think there's a more neutral site / a site and regulating body more fit to host the rematch, then name it. you need hotels, betting money, boxing infrastructure to host a fight of this magnitude. ward got a 5 million dollar garantee, ffs. kovalev fought in a small stadium in russia and generated a fraction of the revenue.


and there's this:

"That week I received over 200 phone calls, emails etc., a lot of them alluding to threats on Fres’ life, my life and our families if we didn’t go" claims Tom Tsatas Oquendo’s advisor. "I have reported this to the FBI and I have sent them the emails."

"They promised us everything to get us over there, but in the end gave us nothing," continued Tsatas. "Once we got there, everything changed. We were not allowed to leave the hotel grounds and we were only able to eat at one place inside the hotel. One member from our team was told in the elevator that if Fres knocked out Chagaev, none of us would leave the country. After the fight we took Fres to the hospital for a brain scan and then he, our promoter and trainer were essentially kidnapped and forced by men carrying automatic weapons to go back to the arena and forced to submit to the RUSADA drug test. And when we were leaving the next day, at the airport, our passports mysteriously went "missing" for over an hour while the promoter, complete with a firearm clearly visible on him, took us to a dimly lit back room and tried to renegotiate Fres’ $1 million purse by offering us a suitcase full of $200,000 in cash. Ultimately, to get out of the country, I actually had to sneak onto the plane using someone else’s boarding pass."


take it for what it's worth, but you don't hear rumors about jay z trying to pay kovlaev 20% of his total purse with a gun on him.

****ing hell

[-Hyperion-]

perez and booker is not a big fight. it was an undrecard, and really it easn't even worthy of that.


if you think there's a more neutral site / a site and regulating body more fit to host the rematch, then name it. you need hotels, betting money, boxing infrastructure to host a fight of this magnitude. ward got a 5 million dollar garantee, ffs. kovalev fought in a small stadium in russia and generated a fraction of the revenue.


and there's this:

"That week I received over 200 phone calls, emails etc., a lot of them alluding to threats on Fres’ life, my life and our families if we didn’t go" claims Tom Tsatas Oquendo’s advisor. "I have reported this to the FBI and I have sent them the emails."

"They promised us everything to get us over there, but in the end gave us nothing," continued Tsatas. "Once we got there, everything changed. We were not allowed to leave the hotel grounds and we were only able to eat at one place inside the hotel. One member from our team was told in the elevator that if Fres knocked out Chagaev, none of us would leave the country. After the fight we took Fres to the hospital for a brain scan and then he, our promoter and trainer were essentially kidnapped and forced by men carrying automatic weapons to go back to the arena and forced to submit to the RUSADA drug test. And when we were leaving the next day, at the airport, our passports mysteriously went "missing" for over an hour while the promoter, complete with a firearm clearly visible on him, took us to a dimly lit back room and tried to renegotiate Fres’ $1 million purse by offering us a suitcase full of $200,000 in cash. Ultimately, to get out of the country, I actually had to sneak onto the plane using someone else’s boarding pass."


take it for what it's worth, but you don't hear rumors about jay z trying to pay kovlaev 20% of his total purse with a gun on him.

I never made a case for Russia, just saying Vegas is just as corrupt as most countries in terms of officials. I already told you in another thread that they'll go where the money is.

[NEETzsche]

perez and booker is not a big fight. it was an undrecard, and really it easn't even worthy of that.


if you think there's a more neutral site / a site and regulating body more fit to host the rematch, then name it. you need hotels, betting money, boxing infrastructure to host a fight of this magnitude. ward got a 5 million dollar garantee, ffs. kovalev fought in a small stadium in russia and generated a fraction of the revenue.


and there's this:

"That week I received over 200 phone calls, emails etc., a lot of them alluding to threats on Fres’ life, my life and our families if we didn’t go" claims Tom Tsatas Oquendo’s advisor. "I have reported this to the FBI and I have sent them the emails."

"They promised us everything to get us over there, but in the end gave us nothing," continued Tsatas. "Once we got there, everything changed. We were not allowed to leave the hotel grounds and we were only able to eat at one place inside the hotel. One member from our team was told in the elevator that if Fres knocked out Chagaev, none of us would leave the country. After the fight we took Fres to the hospital for a brain scan and then he, our promoter and trainer were essentially kidnapped and forced by men carrying automatic weapons to go back to the arena and forced to submit to the RUSADA drug test. And when we were leaving the next day, at the airport, our passports mysteriously went "missing" for over an hour while the promoter, complete with a firearm clearly visible on him, took us to a dimly lit back room and tried to renegotiate Fres’ $1 million purse by offering us a suitcase full of $200,000 in cash. Ultimately, to get out of the country, I actually had to sneak onto the plane using someone else’s boarding pass."


take it for what it's worth, but you don't hear rumors about jay z trying to pay kovlaev 20% of his total purse with a gun on him.

FYI that was a local promoter in chechnya, which is very different to what happens in moscow etc. with major promoters like hryunov, stashkov and ryabinsky

i mean we could cite the various stories about andre ward's manager james prince and make the USA seem like a scary place too

[ccpreps]

Can you imagine if this actually happened? Obviously it won't.

[New England]

FYI that was a local promoter in chechnya, which is very different to what happens in moscow etc. with major promoters like hryunov, stashkov and ryabinsky

i mean we could cite the various stories about andre ward's manager james prince and make the USA seem like a scary place too

you guys are f#cking nuts if you think andre ward's manager's conduct and the article i posted are in the same stratosphere.


you guys are also more than welcome to tell me where the fight should be, and what venue is a more neutral location for a megafight on PPV than las vegas.

[BattlingNelson]

americans keep telling themselves that. The Perez-Booker just proved what horse**** that statement is.

Yeah its bollocks. America is not neutral for a fight between an american and a russian. Its pathetic to even imply such a thing.

[HEND]

Russian system is known from being rigged, the American just have individual, separated fails, but not institutionalized corruption and cheat like in Russia so no, not really...

You also made a poll suited for your needs, that shows how insecure are you...
Why the USA (out of Oakland) isn't an option?
They can make by far the mot money in America and they both fought there in almost all their pro career. Kovalev fights in the USA since 2009, his first fight was in the USA. He lives in the USA for years now.
Nobody gives a **** ass there that he is a Russian, he became a boxing spectacle in the USA.
I guess it's just comfortable to scream hometown decision in situations like this.

this was a close fight, not a robbery, only some casuals and some *******s who can't process that they haven't got their way are crying about robbery.

Also idk why you called Oakland jOakland? You aren't mad at a whole city just cause a fighter you don't like comes from there are you?
How old are you anyway? If you're not under 18 with things like this then that's just sad. I'd think a grown man wouldn't spend his time making polls on the internet where he can only win and hates on a whole city cause of one man.
Really pathetic

[Earl-Hickey]

Neutral ground.

Do it in London as a double header with a joshua fight.

[The Hammer]

Andre Ward is a pampered, privileged prima donna who needs home officiating to win.

He'll NEVER fight overseas.