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  • A.K
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    #11
    Boxing corruption is ridiculous in 2016

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    • Tony Trick-Pony
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      #12
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      Where was the corruption in the Kovalev-Ward fight, lol? The fight was clearly close, Kovalev won the first 2 rounds, the fight was hotly contested basically 3-6, and Kovalev's late fade allowed Ward to dictate the back half of the fight with his lead hand, the body work, and negating what Kovalev was trying to do. It was a close fight, and Ward loss the fight close.

      Also... you know that The Wire is a drama and not an actual story, right?

      You could build a boxing drama from scratch; Don King (street guy turned numbers runner, turned small time promoter, who leveraged his personality and the ruthless focus on boxing's glamour division to build his business), "Oscar De La Hoya" (former fighter, turned company figurehead, turned actual fight promoter), Lou DiBella (Harvard educated TV exec who was buying fight cards, turned promoter rebuilding the fight scene in NYC/the world), Eddie Hearn (son of a successful promoter, who's seeking to take the old family business globally with the biggest and best fights possible), heck even Bob Arum (curmudgeonny, old lawyer, who'd seen nearly 40 years of history pass him by, knowing where "the bodies are buried" [since he's buried his fair share of them]) could all be looked at as inspirations for what the central character should end up being.

      Once you get that central character out of the way, you fill in the rest of the show; cash cow of the stable, the manager for said fighter, the fighter's trainer and gym, the TV executive the promoter looks to work with, various prospects looking for their opportunities, rival promoters, "the next big thing" (hot prospect on the rise looking to knock off the cash cow), etc.

      You can add talks of the commissions and all that, but I sincerely doubt that there are folks still getting handed bags of money to score fights a certain way before the fight even starts; doubt that the commision makes things all that interesting, but whatever.
      Oh? The Wire wasn't real? Gosh, I didn't even know that. I had no idea HBO made fictional shows. Wow. You've opened up my eyes. Now I'll see things differently. Haha. Way to insult somebody's intelligence.

      The Wire I've read has characters all based off of real people and it was a show I thought felt real, although of course it's fiction. Of course, much of boxing seems to be fiction nowadays as well. You have a champion knock his opponent down and win seven of the rounds IMO and many ringsiders and viewers feeling he defended his title. What does boxing do? Goes with the challenger of course. Not a draw which no one would have had a problem with. Not awarding Kovalev the victory setting up a rematch. No, the three American judges all go with the American fighter, of course, to the dismay of most who watched the fight live. And all this BS about I went back and watched the fight and I see it differently. The judges get one chance to score the fight- just one and so many thought the Krusher took this. The KD was the decider, but no. They still went with Ward. Why? Who can say? But it was lousy and fans know it.

      I'm saying that boxing is a corrupt sport but I do not feel it's good to accept the corruption and just go along with it. I just can't do that. A show, while fictional, to show some of these things would go a long way in showing people why the sport that was once the biggest in the country is no dwindling down the drain. And you can doubt shady things going on all you want but common sense says they do. The Perez-Hooker fight is a fine example and while Kovalev-Ward was closer, the resounding feeling right after was, that decision ******. Now all of here on NSB will go back and watch it and analyze, but many fans won't care and just tune out next time. A show, which I think could be called The Rope, could expose some of this.

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        #13
        Originally posted by mlac
        nah bob arum is that litte mad polak police chief who gets his van stolen by frank sobotka

        Haymon is Clay davis.

        Kovalev is chris partlow

        John david jackson is 'cutty'

        Ward is 'Snoop'
        Ward as Snoop. LOL. That's awesome.

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        • Sweet Jones
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          #14
          Originally posted by anthonydavid11
          LOL. Maybe so. Bob Arum is Clay Davis. Haha.


          Nah, Bob Arum is Fat Joe: Just making deals in the old school way ("Buy for 10, sell for 20")

          Al Haymon is The Greek.
          Last edited by Sweet Jones; 11-20-2016, 06:24 PM.

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            #15
            Ward is Marlo.

            A few on here are the security guard.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Scipio2009
              Where was the corruption in the Kovalev-Ward fight, lol? The fight was clearly close, Kovalev won the first 2 rounds, the fight was hotly contested basically 3-6, and Kovalev's late fade allowed Ward to dictate the back half of the fight with his lead hand, the body work, and negating what Kovalev was trying to do. It was a close fight, and Ward loss the fight close.

              Also... you know that The Wire is a drama and not an actual story, right?

              You could build a boxing drama from scratch; Don King (street guy turned numbers runner, turned small time promoter, who leveraged his personality and the ruthless focus on boxing's glamour division to build his business), "Oscar De La Hoya" (former fighter, turned company figurehead, turned actual fight promoter), Lou DiBella (Harvard educated TV exec who was buying fight cards, turned promoter rebuilding the fight scene in NYC/the world), Eddie Hearn (son of a successful promoter, who's seeking to take the old family business globally with the biggest and best fights possible), heck even Bob Arum (curmudgeonny, old lawyer, who'd seen nearly 40 years of history pass him by, knowing where "the bodies are buried" [since he's buried his fair share of them]) could all be looked at as inspirations for what the central character should end up being.

              Once you get that central character out of the way, you fill in the rest of the show; cash cow of the stable, the manager for said fighter, the fighter's trainer and gym, the TV executive the promoter looks to work with, various prospects looking for their opportunities, rival promoters, "the next big thing" (hot prospect on the rise looking to knock off the cash cow), etc.

              You can add talks of the commissions and all that, but I sincerely doubt that there are folks still getting handed bags of money to score fights a certain way before the fight even starts; doubt that the commision makes things all that interesting, but whatever.
              Great point. Would make a helluva series.


              Tyson Fury = Bubbles (can't stay off the sugar booger)
              Adrien Broner = Kenard ("Package up my ass, gump!)
              Bernard Hopkins = Cutty ('The Game aint in me no more)
              Leonard Ellerbe = Stringer Bell (an unreliable 2nd in command not completely trusted by the leader)
              Lou DiBella = Herc (because he looks like him)

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                #17
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                You could build a boxing drama from scratch; Don King (street guy turned numbers runner, turned small time promoter, who leveraged his personality and the ruthless focus on boxing's glamour division to build his business), "Oscar De La Hoya" (former fighter, turned company figurehead, turned actual fight promoter), Lou DiBella (Harvard educated TV exec who was buying fight cards, turned promoter rebuilding the fight scene in NYC/the world), Eddie Hearn (son of a successful promoter, who's seeking to take the old family business globally with the biggest and best fights possible), heck even Bob Arum (curmudgeonny, old lawyer, who'd seen nearly 40 years of history pass him by, knowing where "the bodies are buried" [since he's buried his fair share of them]) could all be looked at as inspirations for what the central character should end up being.

                Once you get that central character out of the way, you fill in the rest of the show; cash cow of the stable, the manager for said fighter, the fighter's trainer and gym, the TV executive the promoter looks to work with, various prospects looking for their opportunities, rival promoters, "the next big thing" (hot prospect on the rise looking to knock off the cash cow), etc.

                You can add talks of the commissions and all that, but I sincerely doubt that there are folks still getting handed bags of money to score fights a certain way before the fight even starts; doubt that the commision makes things all that interesting, but whatever.
                Solid pitch Scipio lol. If I was a network head I'd give you pilot money for this post alone. Definitely some interesting stories & drama in boxing without even getting into what happens in the ring like so many boxing films & shows focus on.

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