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128 fans scored the fight. The average scorecard had Ward winning 114-113.

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  • Originally posted by daggum View Post
    holding and hitting is illegal. are you also giving ward credit for all those lowblows? illegal punches don't matter they still count right but you aren't biased. you just like boxing.
    I'm actually shocked that we're still talking about this fight, one that very clearly could have gone either way. I understand if it's one of those close ones where you can strongly make a case for why one particular fighter should have gotten it instead but that wasn't Ward-Kovalev. No amount of crying is gonna change the actual footage.

    Also, my response to the bold is that Kovalev did more of the holding throughout the fight, especially in the first half, his holding doesn't take away from Ward's work on the inside.

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    • Media scores:

      Shaun Brown (TalkingBoxing.uk): 115-112 Kovalev
      Harold Lederman (HBO): 116-111 Kovalev
      Chris Mannix (Yahoo Sports): 115-112 Kovalev
      Boxhard Podcast: 115-113 Kovalev
      Dan Rafael (ESPN): 115-112 Kovalev
      Andy Paterson (Boxing Asylum): 114-113 Kovalev
      Cliff Rold (Boxingscene): 115-112 Kovalev
      Daniel Vano (***************): 114-113 Kovalev
      ***************: 114-113 Ward
      Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 115-112 Kovalev
      Ryan Burton (Boxingscene): 115-113 Kovalev
      Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sports): 114-113 Ward
      Daniel Attias (AUSboxing) : 114-113 Kovalev
      Victor M Salazar (Boxingscene): 115-112 Kovalev
      Scott Christ (BadLeftHook): 115-112 Kovalev
      Wolfgang Schiffbauer (German Freelancer): 114-113 Ward
      Beau Denison (The Boxing Truth): 114-113 Kovalev
      Ramon Aranda (3MoreRounds): 114-113 Ward
      Brian Campbell (ESPN): 114-113 Ward
      Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 115-112 Kovalev
      Boxing Monthly Online: 114-113 Kovalev
      Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report): 115-112 Kovalev
      Steve Zemach ( FoxSports640): 115-112 Kovalev
      Bernardo Osuna (ESPN Deportes): 115-113 Kovalev
      Mark Ortega (Freelance): 115-112 Ward
      Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing): 116-111 Kovalev
      Mike Coppinger (USA Today): 114-113 Ward
      Ben Weismann (************): 114-113 Kovalev
      Tom Craze (BadLeftHook): 116-111 Ward
      Danny Richardson (Script Media): 115-112 Ward
      Jorge Hernandez (SW Fight): 115-112 Kovalev
      Tim Starks (Queensberry Rules): 115-112 Kovalev
      The Guardian Online: 115-112 Kovalev
      New York Post Online: 114-113 Ward
      G. Leon (Boxtalk): 114-113 Kovalev
      Tim Dahlberg (AP): 116-111 Kovalev
      Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-112 Kovalev
      Steve Kim (UCN Live): 115-112 Kovalev
      Bokser.org: 115-112 Kovalev
      Bob Velin (USA Today): 114-113 Kovalev
      FightersRated: 115-112 Kovalev
      LA Times Online: 114-113 Ward
      Allan Fox (************): 117-110 Kovalev
      Kieran Mulvaney (HBO): 114-113 Kovalev
      Ron Borges (Boston Herald): 116-114 Kovalev
      Tony Bellew (Sky Sports): 114-114 DRAW
      Eric Raskin (HBO): 114-113 Kovalev
      Heavy Bag Boxing: 115-112 Kovalev
      Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly): 117-111 Kovalev
      Stephen A Smith (ESPN): 114-113 Kovalev
      Paul Smith Jnr (Sky Sports): 116-113 Ward
      John Angus MacDonald (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Kovalev
      Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing): 115-112 Ward
      Mark Butcher (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Ward
      Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine): 117-110 Kovalev
      Alex Morris (Next Big Pod): 114-113 Kovalev
      Queensberry Rules: 115-112 Kovalev
      Danny Winterbottom (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Kovalev
      Tom Gray (Ring Magazine): 116-115 Ward
      Sam Sheppard (Next Big Pod): 115-112 Kovalev
      Boxing forum polls:

      RBR Boxing poll which is a poll of 362 People:

      http://roundbyroundboxing.com/sergey...-won-fan-poll/

      Bad left hook poll. A poll of 5696 people.

      http://www.badlefthook.com/2016/11/2...e-kovalev-ward

      Boxrec poll of 147:

      http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=206406

      BN24 poll of 390 people:

      https://www.*************.com/thread...obbery.576706/


      CHB Poll of 169 people:


      http://***************.com/index.php...l.90293/page-8

      BS Poll of 458:

      http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=728926

      All polls had Kovalev winning by a healthy lead! Now find me all those forum polls that have Ward winning???? Don't pretend you don''t value group polls or you wouldn't have cited this twitter app one..
      Last edited by 1g5a22; 01-13-2017, 06:21 AM.

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      • Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post

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        • This thread predates these two gems:

          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
          You want skew it and make it appear that the vast majority had Kovalev winning when they didn't.
          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
          Why aren't you keeping the list of fighters that thought Ward won? Doesn't suit your agenda.
          [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/1ube10l4xArN6/*****.gif[/IMG]

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          • You want skew it and make it appear that the vast majority had Kovalev winning when they didn't.
            Unfortunately they did! LOL Where are your polls???

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            • Originally posted by 1g5a22 View Post
              Unfortunately they did! LOL Where are your polls???
              No the vast majority of fighters didn't which was the subject that post was taken from. Another sad attempt.

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              • Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                No the vast majority of fighters didn't which was the subject that post was taken from. Another sad attempt.
                Didn't they? Well i keep asking for your list of fighters outweighing the ones that thought Kovalev won. Still waiting..

                Why do you post on a boxing forum that has literally 1000s of members yet cite a twitter app of 128 people?

                [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/Ne7aenG4oM1Py/*****.gif[/IMG]

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                • Media scores:

                  Shaun Brown (TalkingBoxing.uk): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Harold Lederman (HBO): 116-111 Kovalev
                  Chris Mannix (Yahoo Sports): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Boxhard Podcast: 115-113 Kovalev
                  Dan Rafael (ESPN): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Andy Paterson (Boxing Asylum): 114-113 Kovalev
                  Cliff Rold (Boxingscene): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Daniel Vano (***************): 114-113 Kovalev
                  ***************: 114-113 Ward
                  Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Ryan Burton (Boxingscene): 115-113 Kovalev
                  Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sports): 114-113 Ward
                  Daniel Attias (AUSboxing) : 114-113 Kovalev
                  Victor M Salazar (Boxingscene): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Scott Christ (BadLeftHook): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Wolfgang Schiffbauer (German Freelancer): 114-113 Ward
                  Beau Denison (The Boxing Truth): 114-113 Kovalev
                  Ramon Aranda (3MoreRounds): 114-113 Ward
                  Brian Campbell (ESPN): 114-113 Ward
                  Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Boxing Monthly Online: 114-113 Kovalev
                  Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Steve Zemach ( FoxSports640): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Bernardo Osuna (ESPN Deportes): 115-113 Kovalev
                  Mark Ortega (Freelance): 115-112 Ward
                  Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing): 116-111 Kovalev
                  Mike Coppinger (USA Today): 114-113 Ward
                  Ben Weismann (************): 114-113 Kovalev
                  Tom Craze (BadLeftHook): 116-111 Ward
                  Danny Richardson (Script Media): 115-112 Ward
                  Jorge Hernandez (SW Fight): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Tim Starks (Queensberry Rules): 115-112 Kovalev
                  The Guardian Online: 115-112 Kovalev
                  New York Post Online: 114-113 Ward
                  G. Leon (Boxtalk): 114-113 Kovalev
                  Tim Dahlberg (AP): 116-111 Kovalev
                  Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Steve Kim (UCN Live): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Bokser.org: 115-112 Kovalev
                  Bob Velin (USA Today): 114-113 Kovalev
                  FightersRated: 115-112 Kovalev
                  LA Times Online: 114-113 Ward
                  Allan Fox (************): 117-110 Kovalev
                  Kieran Mulvaney (HBO): 114-113 Kovalev
                  Ron Borges (Boston Herald): 116-114 Kovalev
                  Tony Bellew (Sky Sports): 114-114 DRAW
                  Eric Raskin (HBO): 114-113 Kovalev
                  Heavy Bag Boxing: 115-112 Kovalev
                  Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly): 117-111 Kovalev
                  Stephen A Smith (ESPN): 114-113 Kovalev
                  Paul Smith Jnr (Sky Sports): 116-113 Ward
                  John Angus MacDonald (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Kovalev
                  Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing): 115-112 Ward
                  Mark Butcher (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Ward
                  Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine): 117-110 Kovalev
                  Alex Morris (Next Big Pod): 114-113 Kovalev
                  Queensberry Rules: 115-112 Kovalev
                  Danny Winterbottom (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Kovalev
                  Tom Gray (Ring Magazine): 116-115 Ward
                  Sam Sheppard (Next Big Pod): 115-112 Kovalev
                  Boxing forum polls:

                  RBR Boxing poll which is a poll of 362 People:

                  http://roundbyroundboxing.com/sergey...-won-fan-poll/

                  Bad left hook poll. A poll of 5696 people.

                  http://www.badlefthook.com/2016/11/2...e-kovalev-ward

                  Boxrec poll of 147:

                  http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=206406

                  BN24 poll of 390 people:

                  https://www.*************.com/thread...obbery.576706/


                  CHB Poll of 169 people:


                  http://***************.com/index.php...l.90293/page-8

                  BS Poll of 458:

                  http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=728926

                  All polls had Kovalev winning by a healthy lead! Now find me all those forum polls that have Ward winning???? Don't pretend you don''t value group polls or you wouldn't have cited this twitter app one..

                  [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/Ne7aenG4oM1Py/*****.gif[/IMG]

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                  • Originally posted by 1g5a22 View Post
                    Didn't they? Well i keep asking for your list of fighters outweighing the ones that thought Kovalev won. Still waiting..

                    Why do you post on a boxing forum that has literally 1000s of members yet cite a twitter app of 128 people?

                    [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/Ne7aenG4oM1Py/*****.gif[/IMG]
                    I posted the list in your failed thread, you know the one that's made you all salty and go quoting all my posts begging for my attention.

                    As i've said the fightscore app shows round by round scoring. Does the polls you posted? DERP DERP DERP

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