"You Have To Beat The Champ" -- Fallacy

[travestyny]

Been seeing a lot of posters type this, but I want to make sure that we understand this properly.

It is not a fallacy, per se, but there is no rule that you "have to take it from the champ" in the sense that you have to do much more than the champ to take the title. The champion doesn't come with a built in advantage.

The champion's only advantage is that he/she keeps the belt in the event of a draw. That's where the term "you have to beat/take it from the champ" comes from.

Both fighters go into a fight evenly no matter who is the champ.

[Earl-Hickey]

Yeah mayne

Dat rule only applies wen a bruvva is da champ yo

Otherwise da rule iz "you have to be da bruvva to win da fite"

[travestyny]

Yeah mayne

Dat rule only applies wen a bruvva is da champ yo

Otherwise da rule iz "you have to be da bruvva to win da fite"

Oh, is that how it works?

When are you going to stop trolling and race baiting? I'm only sharing some boxing knowledge for those who are unaware.

If you have any proof otherwise, do share.

[firstborn]

Been seeing a lot of posters type this, but I want to make sure that we understand this properly.

It is not a fallacy, per se, but there is no rule that you "have to take it from the champ" in the sense that you have to do much more than the champ to take the title. The champion doesn't come with a built in advantage.

The champion's only advantage is that he/she keeps the belt in the event of a draw. That's where the term "you have to beat/take it from the champ" comes from.

Both fighters go into a fight evenly no matter who is the champ.

I hear what you're saying but personally it just doesn't feel right when a champ loses a decision the way Kov did.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Been seeing a lot of posters type this, but I want to make sure that we understand this properly.

It is not a fallacy, per se, but there is no rule that you "have to take it from the champ" in the sense that you have to do much more than the champ to take the title. The champion doesn't come with a built in advantage.

The champion's only advantage is that he/she keeps the belt in the event of a draw. That's where the term "you have to beat/take it from the champ" comes from.

Both fighters go into a fight evenly no matter who is the champ.

Yea, I'm that type who thinks you gotta take it from the champ. Ward fought great the second half of the fight but I think the champ deserves the benefit of the doubt in swing rounds

[-PBP-]

That saying doesn't apply here. Ward used everything in his tool box to take those belts

[Canelo and GGG]

But Ward lost it,lol ,Siegiej dont need a benefit of the daubt cuse his champ,he won this fight.

[PhilPhilly]

I agree, hate hearing that phrase, such a weak cop out when people use it

[Damn Wicked]

I agree with the OP. It shouldn't matter whether you're the champ or not.
Having said that, I thought Kovalev won this fight.