Failed Purse Bids Situations

[davidandrei]

In the event that a champ and a mandatory cannot make a deal, they do a purse bid and do the standard 75 champ and 25 mandatory splits. In what previous cases which a boxer pulled out did you give a pass?

Example, Kovalev dropped mandatory status vs Stevenson. Good strategic move by Stevenson to force the purse bid to enforce 75/25 split when it was lookin like a 50/50 type fight. That's a 50 percent swing.

Imagine 2 years from now, it is not outside the realm of possibility that Golovkin is undisputed and Canelo is a mandatory. Assuming their economic power stays the same as today, I would give Canelo a pass if he decided not to do that fight if it goes purse bid at 25 Canelo 75 Golovkin.

[boliodogs]

Of course Canelo would never go for that and who could blame him. He is a superstar and bigger than any alphabet title. Something like a 60/40 split or a 65/35 split in Canelo's favor seems fair to me. By the same token Oscar's flat fee offer to GGG of 10 million dollars is a garbage offer that GGG will never accept. Khan got paid more than that to fight Canelo in a fight few wanted to see. I think Canelo will try to take Saunder's title and then it will be two champions negotiating the purse split.

[Citizen Koba]

In the event that a champ and a mandatory cannot make a deal, they do a purse bid and do the standard 75 champ and 25 mandatory splits. In what previous cases which a boxer pulled out did you give a pass?

Example, Kovalev dropped mandatory status vs Stevenson. Good strategic move by Stevenson to force the purse bid to enforce 75/25 split when it was lookin like a 50/50 type fight. That's a 50 percent swing.

Imagine 2 years from now, it is not outside the realm of possibility that Golovkin is undisputed and Canelo is a mandatory. Assuming their economic power stays the same as today, I would give Canelo a pass if he decided not to do that fight if it goes purse bid at 25 Canelo 75 Golovkin.

I'm not sure you're right about the Kovalev - Stevenson situation, most of the orgs allow a modification of the purse bid for unifications or in some cases where there's a good financial reason (such as the challenger being a much bigger draw). I think Kovalevs withdrawal from the purse bid had more to do with the timing, his mandatory commitment and his HBO contract, though I've got to admit I never really wrapped my head around exactly why it went down the way it did.

And yeah, while I think that mando commitments are important - to my mind they remain one of the few positives about the sactioning orgs (however **** some of the rankings are) - there are certain situations in which fighters should be given a pass. And of course the challenger is never really under an obligation to fight the champion, it's the champions's obligation to defend his title against who the org says is next in line - if the challenger don't want it, well, that's always up to them. No-one would fault Canelo for refusing 25%, hell, as far as I'm concerned Jacobs is completely within his rights to refuse 25%, though I'm not sure it's a good look or a good career move unless he genuinely believes he cannot win.

[Scipio2009]

In the event that a champ and a mandatory cannot make a deal, they do a purse bid and do the standard 75 champ and 25 mandatory splits. In what previous cases which a boxer pulled out did you give a pass?

Example, Kovalev dropped mandatory status vs Stevenson. Good strategic move by Stevenson to force the purse bid to enforce 75/25 split when it was lookin like a 50/50 type fight. That's a 50 percent swing.

Imagine 2 years from now, it is not outside the realm of possibility that Golovkin is undisputed and Canelo is a mandatory. Assuming their economic power stays the same as today, I would give Canelo a pass if he decided not to do that fight if it goes purse bid at 25 Canelo 75 Golovkin.

... the WBC mandated that the split for Stevenson and Kovalev be 50/50.

Two years from now, Golovkin is ****ed; Golovkin would be 36 years old (12 years as a pro fighter, after having nearly 400 fights as an amateur), he'd have to have fought Daniel Jacobs (bigger faster, stronger, switch boxer-puncher with pop in both hands, though doubt about chin), and he'd have a hoard of monster middleweight prospects just getting into their own primes to contend with (Eubank Jr, Sulecki, Khytrov, Murata, Magomedov), and junior middleweights coming up (Andrade, Soro)

[Dip_Slide]

I think the 75-25 rule is a WBA rule, I think other sanctioning bodies don't have a fixed purse. But I'm not sure.

[original zero]

stevenson agreed to 50/50 with kovalev and kovalev still vacated his title to duck stevenson.

[Robbie Barrett]

Of course Canelo would never go for that and who could blame him. He is a superstar and bigger than any alphabet title. Something like a 60/40 split or a 65/35 split in Canelo's favor seems fair to me. By the same token Oscar's flat fee offer to GGG of 10 million dollars is a garbage offer that GGG will never accept. Khan got paid more than that to fight Canelo in a fight few wanted to see. I think Canelo will try to take Saunder's title and then it will be two champions negotiating the purse split.

Wrong. It was reported Khan could make upto $13 mil if the fight did great, as we know it didn't. We don't know how much he made but it'll be nowhere near $13 mil or even $10 mil.