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  • rrayvez
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    #21
    Originally posted by Apollo7
    Canelo couldn't kill Cotto. I Doubt he kills Pacquiao.
    Cotto is bigger a stronger than what pac is now and cotto has also never been ko'd cold. The size will be too much for pac.

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    • nycsmooth
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      #22
      The old man is that crazy or as drunk as his kid the fight will never happen too much size differential even at a catchweight of 50 Fraudverez can't get down that far...

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      • NYC8224
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        #23
        Originally posted by icha
        it was a good win, but pac couldnt stop vargas right hand if his life depended on it... i personally had the fight closer than the judges except moreti, and i truly believe pack has declined a lot from his last fight... really vargas was supposed to be an easy fight, and it wasnt imo.... P4P canelo is a different animal than vargas, even without the weight difference...
        I saw highlights and parts of it, just didnt look like Vargas was ever in control

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        • icha
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          #24
          Originally posted by NYC8224
          I saw highlights and parts of it, just didnt look like Vargas was ever in control
          i saw the whole fight, and pac had a hard time getting in, vargas connected that right hand at will, too bad his left hand didnt do much..

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          • PAC-BOY
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            #25
            Plain and simple. If Floyd can beat Canelo. Manny can beat Canelo. Not only beat him...but embarrasses him. Canelo will look to land a one shot counter all night. Manny will box his ears off and beat him down. Canelo has NEVER fought anyone on Manny level. Past Manny or todays Manny. Only Floyd who runs and hugs. No threat there. Just frustration. With Manny there will be a threat there ...for 12 rounds. *** around Canelo will look like Margartio at the end of the night.

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            • Reloaded
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              #26
              Originally posted by PAC-BOY
              Plain and simple. If Floyd can beat Canelo. Manny can beat Canelo. Not only beat him...but embarrasses him. Canelo will look to land a one shot counter all night. Manny will box his ears off and beat him down. Canelo has NEVER fought anyone on Manny level. Past Manny or todays Manny. Only Floyd who runs and hugs. No threat there. Just frustration. With Manny there will be a threat there ...for 12 rounds. *** around Canelo will look like Margartio at the end of the night.
              Floyd schooled JMM like an amateur and we all know what JMM did with Manny , your analogy is flawed on so many levels its not funny as Manny does not have the boxing IQ or skills that Floyd processes .

              Canelo would KO Manny he is just too big .

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                #27
                Originally posted by Reloaded
                Floyd schooled JMM like an amateur and we all know what JMM did with Manny , your analogy is flawed on so many levels its not funny as Manny does not have the boxing IQ or skills that Floyd processes .

                Canelo would KO Manny he is just too big .
                Yeah thats what they said about Margartio Cotto DLH Mosley and so on...Hes to big.

                Floyd dont have a boxing IQ dummy. Punch Run hold Bayless. Punch Run hold Bayless Punch Run hold Bayless Punch Run hold Bayless.... Some IQ. It works for him $$ hey a wins a win. :yawn:

                Floyd beat a JMM moving up 3 divisions. lmfao. I wouldnt think youd understated that logic. A wins a win right? lol

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                • sterilizer
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Reloaded
                  Floyd schooled JMM like an amateur and we all know what JMM did with Manny , your analogy is flawed on so many levels its not funny as Manny does not have the boxing IQ or skills that Floyd processes .

                  Canelo would KO Manny he is just too big .
                  Floyd's fans should be UTTERLY ASHAMED of that so-called "fight" between Floyd and JMM. JMM was hardly a lightweight (135 pounds) he had only had two fights at that weight, where he won the belts from different boxing associations. So Floyd demanded a 144-pound catch-weight (nine pounds above Marquez's last two fights) and he had the nerve of weighing 146 at the weigh in while an out of shape JMM weighed only 142. On fight night Floyd was totally in shape and he was way bigger than JMM (possibly 10 pounds or more). Yet, despite of so many advantages (way bigger and in much better shape) all he managed to do was win by a unanimous decision.

                  That ridiculous and completely uneven "match up" reminds me of the fight of Josesito Lopez vs. Canelo Alvarez, where Josesito went from welterweight, after having defeated and broken Victor Ortiz's jaw, to super-welterweight, that is, seven pounds above his last fight. EVERYBODY predicted Canelo was gonna beat him up real bad while walking through Josesito's punches and that's exactly what happened. The KO happened in the 5th round, after Canelo had dropped him at least a couple of times.

                  Bottom line, Floyd looked like a huge monster totally in shape, with much better reach, conditioning, everything in his favor vs. a blown-up, fat, out of shape, way smaller, weaker and slower JMM, because JMM was totally out of his real weight division at that time.

                  THAT FLOYD "VICTORY" BY UD WAS A TOTAL SHAME IN FLOYD'S RECORD. Every single fight of Manny vs. Marquez was on even terms size and shape-wise. That's why all those four fights were so even and exciting.

                  I'd like to see Floyd fight either GGG or Canelo today at 154. He would GET KILLED by any of the two. The green, very young, naive, much weaker, clumsier and drained Canelo that Floyd fought three years ago, has nothing to do with today's Canelo. Another good example of Floyd taking advantage of the circumstances, not to mention that Floyd decided to fight Manny only after JMM almost killed him. Nice timing, trickster!

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                  • _Maxi
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by icha
                    styles make fights newbie.... plus cotto isnt the WW he used to be, he destroyed maravilla(criple but big) and also destroyed big a$$ geale who was considered gggs best win at the time...
                    pac is struggling with the likes of vargas now...
                    Geale at 157, after he got destroyed by ggg, and landed a kd after a big headbutt.

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                    • spenz
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                      #30
                      Too much, too much I think roach is in over his head with this one, I think in his younger days he could have risk it but he is old now. Pacquiao has already maxed out his body---he has climbed too much than his body can handle, he had to eat 5x more than normal just to get to proper welterweight, there are others who pretend to be small but this guy pacquiao is the real small guy fighting constantly against big guys for several years now, even in 140-lb division 99% of fighters there are still bigger than him, just imagine that.

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