"Special One" Brook vs "Pac-Man" Pacquiao @ 147 lbs / 10 Stone 7: Who wins?

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  • E10Rifle
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    #21
    Would love to say Pac could do it, but I think tonight showed a couple of critical diminishments in his armoury (I.e. combination output and, critically, lateral movement). I think Brook's right cross would counter him into retirement.

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      #22
      Originally posted by LoadedWraps
      I can't either, but gave the nod to him on history and the fact the he is pretty explosive p4p.

      None of these attributes are big gaps except speed. Brook has great speed but not many fighters in history have Manny's level when he really lets his hands go so I gave him the edge.
      One thing you guys dont see here ,is that Marquez is diffrent type of Counter puncher then Brook,he stays in the Pocket and hit you even if hited,Brook whille attack like in GGG fight rather try to hug,he is beating you to the punch more then countering,he was landing best shots on GGG while Golovkin was moving in.his not classic counter puncher.

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      • hectari
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        #23
        Kell Brook

        Brook was lighting GGG up and took GGG best punch, Brook is huge and has a powerful punch and iron chin.

        Pac wont make it past 5 rounds. Brook knocks him out cold and this isnt a joke, He will do it with a power jab.

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        • just the facts
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          #24
          I'll take PAC by stoppage in the tenth in a fight Brook is comfortably ahead in.

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          • LoadedWraps
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            #25
            Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
            One thing you guys dont see here ,is that Marquez is diffrent type of Counter puncher then Brook,he stays in the Pocket and hit you even if hited,Brook whille attack like in GGG fight rather try to hug,he is beating you to the punch more then countering,he was landing best shots on GGG while Golovkin was moving in.his not classic counter puncher.
            I don't disagree with you about JMM, but I don't see what that has to do with my post, lol.

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              #26
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps
              I don't disagree with you about JMM, but I don't see what that has to do with my post, lol.
              ah it was guy who you quoted talking about counter punchinf of Brook

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              • RussB23
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                #27
                Brook is the best welterweight in my opinion. I think he beats pacman at this stage in his career.

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                • Ruthless One
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                  #28
                  I'd say Pacquiao SD for this one. Although if he declines any further, Brook will take it.

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                  • LoadedWraps
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                    #29
                    Need to hear Redd Foxx 's take on this one.

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                    • Redd Foxx
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                      Need to hear Redd Foxx 's take on this one.

                      It's fair to say that we've seen a LOT of versatility from Brook. We know Kell can fight off the back foot, knows how to use his jab, reasonably good movement, and has a decent arsenal.

                      We'll compare Manny to Shawn (not ideal, but he's the most similar competitor Brook has seen). Kell did not have an easy time with Porter. Shawn and Manny are both aggressive but Pac is much less predictable, harder to clinch, not to mention that he has far better timing, accuracy, defense, etc, etc, etc. There's very little that Shawn did to Brook that Manny wouldn't do better. Far better. Likewise, none of the offense I've seen from Kell is the type of thing that has ever been effective against Pac. Even worse, Manny can and probably will hurt Brook, but Kell is very unlikely to do the same.

                      Brook is simply not the level of fighter Manny Pac is BUT, I'll say that Brook does stand a chance. Why? Because, Kell is a smart, versatile fighter and Pac is fading. We saw this when he repeatedly ate counter rights from Vargas. The Pac from Bradley 3 would comfortably best Kell Brook. The Pac from last night might narrowly decision him. Manny in 2017? He might possibly lose to Brook.

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