Comments Thread For: Marquez Claims Conspiracy in Push To See Golovkin Go To 168

**batista84** · 11-03-2016, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Jubei

Here is what Miguel Diaz thinks about Canelo and GGG. Says Canelo has no chance at all and that Oscar knows that himself, thats why they try everything to make the fight not happen.

You can't trust someone's opinion when he doesn't name Salvador Sanchez or Pipino Cuevas, those dudes, specially Sanchez are ranked higher than Chavez Sr.

I'm not saying Canelo beats GGG, but if Canelo wins I wouldn't be shocked, hope the fight gets done and we finally can see who really GGG is, because by now we know who Canelo is.

**batista84** · 11-03-2016, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by AKAcronym

Unsure of him punching harder at 160 since he'll be wearing heavier gloves. I do believe he'll be better conditioned though. It'll be better for him not cutting so much weight fighting at 160.

It's just biology and physics all the way, when you dehydrate you lose resistance, power, speed, your whole body loses atheticism, Canelo will be at a more his natural weight, having to deplete your body till one night before the fight weakens you, the less you do it, the better your body will be prepared for an intense activity.

I think Canelo will be at his totally peak when he finally fights @160, better stamina, better conditioning, more power. Mark my words, Canelo will be a killer @160, a few days ago Curtis Stevens gave an interview where he said that the heavier Canelo was the heavier he felt his punches, when he was cutting down weight he punched weaker.

A short compact heavy tank dude with boxing skills, that will be GGG's toughest test.

**Graz** · 11-03-2016, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by jonnyc420

Funny how you claim he has ever juiced but never has tested positive for any banned substances. Also Canelo called GGG out in the ring and then dumped his belt and ran back down a weight class. Thats the real deal to you? C'mon man, Marquez has balls and proven that by fighting the best his entire career show some damn respect to a legend.

Very true. Marquez is one of the greats in boxing and is a legend in the sport. When Juan Manuel speaks, like that financial brokerage house, everyone listens. His take on the matter makes sense.

**Lester Tutor** · 11-03-2016, 01:48 PM

Conspiracy = Kellerman, Bhop, RJJ, WBO president voicing better matchups and challenges.

Miguel Rivera out of be ashamed of himself for adding "conspiracy" as "they" from what Marquez generally stated.

"As Golovkin grows in popularity...he's gonna have to move up. IT may be at 175, as I said before, Champion Cruiserweights are easy for him in the gym...so I have no problem about the weight." -Abel (2014) Dontaes Boxing Nation notorious interview.

Yeah its a conspiracy when gggs on trainer represents Golovkin with such statements for a fighter that's 32 years of age at the time

**Shadoww702** · 11-03-2016, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by Jubei

Here is what Miguel Diaz thinks about Canelo and GGG. Says Canelo has no chance at all and that Oscar knows that himself, thats why they try everything to make the fight not happen.

Isn't he the guy who staked his reputation on Diego Corrales and thought he was going to beat Floyd???

How many millions he lose when Mayweather wouldn't take him back???

**GOD-FR33** · 11-03-2016, 04:19 PM

it's Science...

Originally posted by Shadoww702

I always get a kick out of Pac fans complaining about other boxers juicing???

Only an ignorant person who claims to be a fan would say that. It is one thing to speculate about a fighter juicing. It is another to completely transform into a new body and have new strength. Roidquez hires a KNOWN steroid pusher who has a degree in Bio-Chemistry. On top of that, he started lifting weights. He didn't believe in lifting weights prior to hiring Angel. He was knocking down sparring partners, busting speed bags, and developed acne on his chest and back. He also welcomed anybody who thought he was juicing, to test him. Smh. Sounds similar to Floyd, ey? Both of those guys are cheaters. In Floyd's case, he gets caught pumping 750ml into his body. Keep in mind that the average is 50ml for a dehydrated adult male. He didn't step on the unofficial scale for his last 4 or 5 fights!!! This is a guy who has always been proud of his fight night weight. He was also physically bigger. He is not and never was a "small" welterweight. He is a BIG welterweight. This isn't about who my favorite fighter is. This is about the obvious facts. Roidquez is not capable of KOing Manny. He was a good puncher, not a one punch KO artist. Manny's chin is great and he can handle a "normal" Roidquez punch. Roidquez wasn't normal that night and that's why he suffered injuries after the Manny fight. It was ROIDS!

**aboutfkntime** · 11-03-2016, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by boxingitis

Well they should offer GGG 35%, it will be less than $10 million ur opinion. If ppv fails GGG looses, he will earn less than $ 10 million, if the ppv succeeds GGG might earn more than $10 million. Let the market deciede what he is worth. GGG does not deserve more than 40%.

he does not deserve 40% either

the way you explained it, Golovkin should take the 10mil

waaay better fighters have accepted waaay less

it doesn't sound like a good enough reason to hold the fight up

**aboutfkntime** · 11-03-2016, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by SteveM

Golovkin should take the $10 million but by same reasoning jacobs should take 1.5M

I disagree with that

Canelo is a star, Golovkin is not

Golovkin needs Jacobs more than Canelo needs Golovkin

all I meant by that post is, 10mil is not a bad offer

**stuff jones** · 11-03-2016, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by Isaac Clarke

Conspiracy in push?

Golovkin has been saying anyone from 154-168 for 4 years. People are telling him to back up his talk.

Please provide a link quoting him saying that recently. TIA.

**aboutfkntime** · 11-03-2016, 06:50 PM