Golovkin said anyone from 154 to 168 then ducked Ward, Lara, Ramirez and Degale

[satiev1]

It's not the same principle. Both Floyd and Pacquiao were household names. Only Canelo is the household name in this situation. Canelo damn sure deserves 80%. He's the only one fighting on PPV. He's the only one selling out football stadiums. He's the only one selling out Vegas.

$300k ppv buys and he deserves 80 percent. kill yourself lol.

[Motorcity Cobra]

$300k ppv buys and he deserves 80 percent. kill yourself lol.

He's fighting on PPV twice a year on boxing's biggest weekends. When is GGG fighting on PPV?

[Motorcity Cobra]

How is it not the same principle, minus the specifics?

Canelo doesn't damn sure deserve 80%.

Get real.

He's just done 250-300,000 buys against Smith. And those figures are similar to what he did against Angulo, Trout, Lara and Kirkland etc. Yes, he's a bigger name than GG, and yes, he deserves more. But he is not a big PPV attraction, unless he's in fights with huge names.

A GG fight gives him his biggest payday. Again, fights against Manny and a rematch with Floyd are unrealistic, and a Cotto rematch would probably bomb.

GG is considered the "Man" at the weight, his popularity is increasing all of the time, and he has 3 of the 4 belts.

If Canelo draws 300,000 buys against the likes of Smith, but a GG fight would do well over 1 million, how on earth does he deserve an 80% split?

Both guys need each other.

How does Canelo need him when he's fighting on PPV twice a year. Without Canelo when is the next time GGG is fighting on PPV? And we ain't taking peanuts. We're talking at least $10 mil.

[robertzimmerman]

How does Canelo need him when he's fighting on PPV twice a year. Without Canelo when is the next time GGG is fighting on PPV? And we ain't taking peanuts. We're talking at least $10 mil.

What do you mean how does he need him?

He's moving up to the MW division. GG is the 'Man' of that division and he has 3 of the 4 belts.

Canelo's last PPV bombed. Because fans thought he was going to fight GG, but he ended up fighting Liam Smith instead.

Who else is he going to fight at MW? The only guy he can fight who'd be relevant would be BJS.

Again, once the last 2 belt holders have been taken out of the equation, there's no one left to fight.

Unless Canelo fights GG or BJS, his reputation and his PPV numbers will continue to suffer, and he'll only be making around $5m, which would be peanuts compared to what a GG fight could earn him.

Both guys need each other.

[robertzimmerman]

He's fighting on PPV twice a year on boxing's biggest weekends. When is GGG fighting on PPV?

Only 250-300,000 PPV's on Mexican Independence Day?

Where is this huge PPV star who supposedly deserves 75-80% of the purse against GG?

[Motorcity Cobra]

Only 250-300,000 PPV's on Mexican Independence Day?

Where is this huge PPV star who supposedly deserves 75-80% of the purse against GG?

Against a no name opponent & he still doubled GGG's numbers & packed a football stadium. I don't think you realize how far apart they are in terms of popularity. Canelo was selling out his own arenas on Floyd's undercards. Jacobs is more known than Smith. K2 should put it on PPV & prove why GGG deserves more. They won't even attempt a PPV without Canelo but you're telling me Canelo doesn't deserve 80% of the revenue?!?!?!?

[Citizen Koba]

Against a no name opponent & he still doubled GGG's numbers & packed a football stadium. I don't think you realize how far apart they are in terms of popularity. Canelo was selling out his own arenas on Floyd's undercards. Jacobs is more known than Smith. K2 should put it on PPV & prove why GGG deserves more. They won't even attempt a PPV without Canelo but you're telling me Canelo doesn't deserve 80% of the revenue?!?!?!?

My feeling was that 30 - 35% for GGG would be kind of fair, but I'm thinking realistically the closest fight in terms of circumstances in recent times is Hopkins vs Oscar - smaller, more popular challenger (although with his own MW title) moving up to face long established unified champ. It netted Hopkins $10 mil - 25% of the purse. I doubt Golovkin sees more than that.

[icha]

They can give him the middle finger. It won't benefit Canelo. It will just put him under even more pressure. He hasn't got a lot of options, and unless both fighters lose, sooner or later they're going to run out of relevant opponents to fight.

thats my whole point, a middle finger will move the fight down at least one year and it will benefit canelo not ggg...
maybe ggg feels he can afford it, but many things could happen in a year, not only ggg gets older, but canelo continues to grow phiscally and mentally...
remember when canelo showed his middle finger to cotto and moved on to fight kirkland instead, if he did it to a much bigger name he wont hesitate to do it to ggg who canelo considers hasnt done enough to call any shots...

[robertzimmerman]

Against a no name opponent & he still doubled GGG's numbers & packed a football stadium. I don't think you realize how far apart they are in terms of popularity. Canelo was selling out his own arenas on Floyd's undercards. Jacobs is more known than Smith. K2 should put it on PPV & prove why GGG deserves more. They won't even attempt a PPV without Canelo but you're telling me Canelo doesn't deserve 80% of the revenue?!?!?!?

****ing 80% of the purse?

GTFOH.

Don't be an idiot.

GG has a had a slow start because he's from Khazakstan. His circumstances are very different. But he's now gaining popularity with each fight. He's just done 500,000 with Brook. Canelo has just bombed on a Mexican holiday. He's not the superstar that you think he is. He's not Oscar, Manny or Floyd. Give him a huge opponent and he does great, give him Lara, Trout, Smith and Kirkland etc, and he has a $3.5m guarantee and sells 250-300,000 PPV's. He doesn't deserve anything like 80%. For what?? For having had opportunities GG hasn't, and because he's more popular? GG's undefeated, he's got 3 of the 4 MW belts, and he will play a huge part in making this a huge fight that would generate millions in PPV revenue. How hard is that to understand? If he's doing 250-300 buys, but fighting GG would generate well over 1m, then GG has to be rewarded for that. It takes 2 guys to make a huge fight. A GG fight gives Canelo his biggest payday. If he fights guys like Lemieux who GG has already beaten, his numbers and his purse aren't going to be much different than in his last fight.

[robertzimmerman]

thats my whole point, a middle finger will move the fight down at least one year and it will benefit canelo not ggg...
maybe ggg feels he can afford it, but many things could happen in a year, not only ggg gets older, but canelo continues to grow phiscally and mentally...
remember when canelo showed his middle finger to cotto and moved on to fight kirkland instead, if he did it to a much bigger name he wont hesitate to do it to ggg who canelo considers hasnt done enough to call any shots...

It would only benefit him in the long term if GG ages and he beats him. Yes, obviously I agree with that. But will GG deteriorate?

If he gives GG the middle finger, his reputation will take another huge hit. Once he's officially moved up to MW, he's in GG's pond, and again, GG is the 'Man' with most of the belts.

Who's Canelo going to fight? Again, Brook says he's fighting Spence, and Floyd and Manny are unrealistic. His only option is if he can fight BJS before GG can. After that there'd be nobody. There'd only be GG left who was relevant. I don't think people would care to see him fight Cotto again. Giving GG the finger buys him time, but people are losing patience with him.