''When I beat GGG, critics will bring out another name...'' - Alvarez (''Ducking'')

[Lester Tutor]

So, your long winded answer is basically a year from now (or actually just under 11 months), even after we've been told numerous times by one party that he was ready to fight "right now". What makes you so condident that Canelo is telling the truth this time? Before Cotto, it was "I'll fight him next if I beat Cotto". Immediately following victory over Cotto, it was "Im ready right now". In January, it was "I'll fight him after a voluntary". Immediately after Khan it was "We don't fuŠk around. I'll put on the gloves amd fight right now". Ten days later, it became "Here's your belt, Im not a 160 fighter". After that, it became I'll fight you over a year from now". So now you believe him? I for one don't until there is a real announcement

again, there's no science fictional surprise for when Alvarez fights.

Sept. 2017 is the date to sign if he wants to fight Alvarez. 8figures.

[Lester Tutor]

He said its normal ......... LMAO not that in bothers him,he have no obligation to fight GGG from the moment he fixed his mistake and droped wbc (he got in only becuse he wanted Cotto)

GBP and Loeffler were talking negotiations. This is publicly known in many interviews all across youtube. As I said even before the purse bid fiasco with Jacobs, I said the same thing, that GBP wouldn't dream of going to purse bid for the WBC strap. Therefore Alvarez vacated. It's all about money splits. ''who has he fought'' means ''you're not getting the money you don't deserve.''

[PK3434]

An interim fight? lol. Golovkin was the interim when Alvarez won the WBC...

Almost a year away? Do you know which particular dates Alvarez fights?

Yes, an interim fight, which was Khan. Before that, GGG was Canelo's mandatory. They made a deal with k2 and the WBC to do an interim fight before the big fight was ordered. Then when it was ordered officially, they gave up their belt. These are facts. Try to spin them however you want.

Do you realize that Golovkin is trying to secure a fight with Jacobs right now?

Would you rather Golovkin fight Jacobs or fight Alphonso Blanco? Or Maybe Something Heiland?

If Golovkin were to wait for Canelo in September of next year while fighting those type of guys in the meantime, you would make 20 threads a day, criticizing him for fighting bums.

Let him try to work out the Jacobs fight and calm down.

[GGG Gloveking]

again, there's no science fictional surprise for when Alvarez fights.

Sept. 2017 is the date to sign if he wants to fight Alvarez. 8figures.

The fiction isn't when he fights, but rather who he fights. The fiction we've been sold for a year now is that the opponent would be Golovkin. First fictional date: May 2016 (next after Cotto). Second fictional date: September 2016 (after voluntary defense). Now the third fictional date is September 2017.

[Lester Tutor]

Yes, an interim fight, which was Khan. Before that, GGG was Canelo's mandatory. They made a deal with k2 and the WBC to do an interim fight before the big fight was ordered. Then when it was ordered officially, they gave up their belt. These are facts. Try to spin them however you want.

Do you realize that Golovkin is trying to secure a fight with Jacobs right now?

Would you rather Golovkin fight Jacobs or fight Alphonso Blanco? Or Maybe Something Heiland?

If Golovkin were to wait for Canelo in September of next year while fighting those type of guys in the meantime, you would make 20 threads a day, criticizing him for fighting bums.

Let him try to work out the Jacobs fight and calm down.

Of course Im eager for the Jacobs fight too, but that's irrelevant for Sept. 2017. Sept vs Feb-March?

In Layman's terms, what do splits from Jacobs vs Alvarez have to do with Sept 2017 8 figure offering?

[M Bison]

It doesn'T matter what fans theorize. It's the industry narrative. The fact of the matter is, 8figures are being offered for Sept. 2016. What other paydays can Gennady earn? What does Gennady want NOW from Alvarez? The lineal 160?

The pressure is on Golovkin. Industry is quiet atm because nobody can write that Golovkin can make 8figures in 2016 without Alvarez from a single bout

Who is to say Canelo or Golovkin go all the way to 2017 September unbeaten?
Both have rumoured tough fights coming into the early part of 2017 from now all the way til September a lot can change and quite frankly nothing needs to be set in stone until about 4 months to that date.

I agree though as long as its at 160 just accept a low ball offer but for the time being negotiate terms get the best deal you can get and make the fight when you have absolutely nothing in your way because you shouldn't be thinking of Canelo when you might be fighting Jacobs If he gets past Jacobs that's when this fight should be accepted not 2/3 fights in advance that isn't how things should be done.

[Lester Tutor]

The fiction isn't when he fights, but rather who he fights. The fiction we've been sold for a year now is that the opponent would be Golovkin. First fictional date: May 2016 (next after Cotto). Second fictional date: September 2016 (after voluntary defense). Now the third fictional date is September 2017.

We don't need to bring up Cotto or Khan anymore. That gets boring.

The fact is presented. Does K2 REALLY want to reserve Sept. 2017? Why are people assuming that any other opponent for Sept. 2017 will get 8figures?

[Lester Tutor]

Who is to say Canelo or Golovkin go all the way to 2017 September unbeaten?
Both have rumoured tough fights coming into the early part of 2017 from now all the way til September a lot can change and quite frankly nothing needs to be set in stone until about 4 months to that date.

I agree though as long as its at 160 just accept a low ball offer but for the time being negotiate terms get the best deal you can get and make the fight when you have absolutely nothing in your way because you shouldn't be thinking of Canelo when you might be fighting Jacobs If he gets past Jacobs that's when this fight should be accepted not 2/3 fights in advance that isn't how things should be done.

The ''low ball'' offer? Again, who else will ggg fight to get the 8figures?

Gennady has no say in this.

[M Bison]

The ''low ball'' offer? Again, who else will ggg fight to get the 8figures?

Gennady has no say in this.

Just like the professional pundits say who else does Canelo fight that draws the same attention that Gennady would?
It takes two to tango in this certain circumstance GGG is widely accomplished it is seen as Canelo is scared of GGG by the public and GGG has all the titles apart from the WBO Super so really the only thing Canelo brings is a bit of hype which GGG clearly brings as well.

[KLockard23]

Oh lord, just stop. You're not Mayweather. No one ever pressured you to fight anyone before until Golovkin came along and that's because it was clear you were, and still are, ducking him.